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Attributes | |
ACN | 776107 |
Time | |
Date | 200802 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mmmx.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 776107 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Airport |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Weight and temperature allowed for a takeoff from runway 5L at MMMX; so this runway was accepted when assigned. From a cursory study of airport diagram; it appeared that a takeoff from runway 5L should be commenced from intersection B2; airport diagram designates the portion of runway 5L prior to this intersection as stopway. Mexico city tower told us to taxi all the way to the end of the stopway and plan takeoff from taxiway a intersection. A much closer inspection of the tps revealed the stopway could and should be used for the takeoff. To prevent an inappropriate takeoff from taxiway B2 in the future; I make two suggestions. First and foremost; the approach end of runway 5L on the airport diagram should not be shown as a stopway but rather as a runway with displaced threshold all the way back to taxiway a. Second; the highlighted box on the takeoff performance page begins: 'twy 5L/23R takeoff lengths are shorter than pavement length shown on airport diagram. Full length is available for accel-stop purposes.' because stopways normally refer to the portion of the runway at the departure end of the runway and not the approach end; I suggest this last sentence read: 'takeoff from taxiway a is available for accel-stop purposes when taking off on runway 5L.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CAPT REPORTS THAT RWY 5L AT MMMX IS USEABLE FOR TKOF FROM THE A TXWY ACCORDING TO MMMX TOWER; BUT IS DEPICTED AS STOPWAY ON THE ARPT DIAGRAM.
Narrative: WT AND TEMP ALLOWED FOR A TKOF FROM RWY 5L AT MMMX; SO THIS RWY WAS ACCEPTED WHEN ASSIGNED. FROM A CURSORY STUDY OF ARPT DIAGRAM; IT APPEARED THAT A TKOF FROM RWY 5L SHOULD BE COMMENCED FROM INTXN B2; ARPT DIAGRAM DESIGNATES THE PORTION OF RWY 5L PRIOR TO THIS INTXN AS STOPWAY. MEXICO CITY TWR TOLD US TO TAXI ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE STOPWAY AND PLAN TKOF FROM TXWY A INTXN. A MUCH CLOSER INSPECTION OF THE TPS REVEALED THE STOPWAY COULD AND SHOULD BE USED FOR THE TKOF. TO PREVENT AN INAPPROPRIATE TKOF FROM TXWY B2 IN THE FUTURE; I MAKE TWO SUGGESTIONS. FIRST AND FOREMOST; THE APCH END OF RWY 5L ON THE ARPT DIAGRAM SHOULD NOT BE SHOWN AS A STOPWAY BUT RATHER AS A RWY WITH DISPLACED THRESHOLD ALL THE WAY BACK TO TXWY A. SECOND; THE HIGHLIGHTED BOX ON THE TKOF PERFORMANCE PAGE BEGINS: 'TWY 5L/23R TKOF LENGTHS ARE SHORTER THAN PAVEMENT LENGTH SHOWN ON ARPT DIAGRAM. FULL LENGTH IS AVAILABLE FOR ACCEL-STOP PURPOSES.' BECAUSE STOPWAYS NORMALLY REFER TO THE PORTION OF THE RWY AT THE DEP END OF THE RWY AND NOT THE APCH END; I SUGGEST THIS LAST SENTENCE READ: 'TKOF FROM TXWY A IS AVAILABLE FOR ACCEL-STOP PURPOSES WHEN TAKING OFF ON RWY 5L.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.