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B757 flight crew was instructed to hold short of runway 05R at MMMX. Flight crew was unable to locate 'hold short' line and came very close to displaced threshold of runway 05R.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 776268 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200803 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mmmx.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mmmx.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13300 flight time type : 2200 |
| ASRS Report | 776268 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Situations | |
| Airport | markings : mmmx.airport signage : mmmx.airport |
| Chart | airport : mmmx.airport |
Narrative:
My aircraft was given taxi instructions to taxi via taxiway B3 and taxiway A1; and hold short of runway 05R at A1. I (captain) mentally noted a flight plan note that indicated that the hold short line on taxiway A1 was 'poorly marked.' I proceeded to taxi as instructed; visually searching for hold short line on taxiway A1; as well as other supporting visual indications of runway proximity; relative to taxiway A1 as the taxi progressed; I noticed yellow chevrons perpendicular to; and ahead of my aircraft path (I believe that this was the displaced threshold overrun area for runways 05R/23L). I stopped the aircraft prior to yellow chevrons; and looked left to observe another B757 in landing flare in very close proximity to my aircraft. The landing aircraft appeared to land without incident. I never observed the hold short line on taxiway A1; or any other markings; lights; or signs that reflected the intersection or hold short line for taxiway A1; and runway 05R; but I believe that I crossed it at some point; due to close proximity of landing aircraft; as well as the overrun markings. While there was a warning regarding this problem; in the flight plan notes; it was nonspecific in nature. The special operations pages for this airport do not cover this particular intersection; and the detail of airport diagram does not adequately detail this intersection. I believe that this intersection warrants a 'hot spot;' as well as an additional special operations page with amplified detail of this intersection.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated that taxiway A1 is a relatively new taxiway. Company operational notes state the inadequacies of the markings in this area. An additional chart was published by the company; but it does not depict the intersection of taxiway A1 and the runway 05R displaced threshold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW WAS INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 05R AT MMMX. FLT CREW WAS UNABLE TO LOCATE 'HOLD SHORT' LINE AND CAME VERY CLOSE TO DISPLACED THRESHOLD OF RWY 05R.
Narrative: MY AIRCRAFT WAS GIVEN TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO TAXI VIA TXWY B3 AND TXWY A1; AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 05R AT A1. I (CAPTAIN) MENTALLY NOTED A FLIGHT PLAN NOTE THAT INDICATED THAT THE HOLD SHORT LINE ON TXWY A1 WAS 'POORLY MARKED.' I PROCEEDED TO TAXI AS INSTRUCTED; VISUALLY SEARCHING FOR HOLD SHORT LINE ON TXWY A1; AS WELL AS OTHER SUPPORTING VISUAL INDICATIONS OF RWY PROXIMITY; RELATIVE TO TXWY A1 AS THE TAXI PROGRESSED; I NOTICED YELLOW CHEVRONS PERPENDICULAR TO; AND AHEAD OF MY AIRCRAFT PATH (I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD OVERRUN AREA FOR RWYS 05R/23L). I STOPPED THE AIRCRAFT PRIOR TO YELLOW CHEVRONS; AND LOOKED LEFT TO OBSERVE ANOTHER B757 IN LANDING FLARE IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MY AIRCRAFT. THE LANDING AIRCRAFT APPEARED TO LAND WITHOUT INCIDENT. I NEVER OBSERVED THE HOLD SHORT LINE ON TXWY A1; OR ANY OTHER MARKINGS; LIGHTS; OR SIGNS THAT REFLECTED THE INTERSECTION OR HOLD SHORT LINE FOR TXWY A1; AND RWY 05R; BUT I BELIEVE THAT I CROSSED IT AT SOME POINT; DUE TO CLOSE PROXIMITY OF LANDING AIRCRAFT; AS WELL AS THE OVERRUN MARKINGS. WHILE THERE WAS A WARNING REGARDING THIS PROBLEM; IN THE FLIGHT PLAN NOTES; IT WAS NONSPECIFIC IN NATURE. THE SPECIAL OPS PAGES FOR THIS AIRPORT DO NOT COVER THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION; AND THE DETAIL OF ARPT DIAGRAM DOES NOT ADEQUATELY DETAIL THIS INTERSECTION. I BELIEVE THAT THIS INTERSECTION WARRANTS A 'HOT SPOT;' AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL SPECIAL OPS PAGE WITH AMPLIFIED DETAIL OF THIS INTERSECTION.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE REPORTER STATED THAT TXWY A1 IS A RELATIVELY NEW TXWY. COMPANY OPERATIONAL NOTES STATE THE INADEQUACIES OF THE MARKINGS IN THIS AREA. AN ADDITIONAL CHART WAS PUBLISHED BY THE COMPANY; BUT IT DOES NOT DEPICT THE INTERSECTION OF TXWY A1 AND THE RWY 05R DISPLACED THRESHOLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.