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Attributes | |
ACN | 776896 |
Time | |
Date | 200803 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 2i0.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : evv.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Hercules (C-130) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cheetah Tiger Traveler |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : contact |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : military controller : non radar controller : radar |
Experience | controller limited radar : 25 controller military : 8 controller non radar : 25 controller radar : 25 controller supervisory : 1 controller time certified in position1 : 20 |
ASRS Report | 776890 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
C130 on VOR 23 approach to 2i0 airport; switched to advisory frequency. On departure; pilot asked if we had been talking to anyone else at that airport during their approach; advised that we had not. C130 pilot then stated that what appeared to be an aa-1 or aa-5 landed immediately behind them; and that the other pilot hadn't stated anything on the advisory frequency at any time. From what I understand; the pilot of the C130 saw the other aircraft just as they touched down; and it was an unwelcome surprise with the WX as it was. Earlier in the day at a satellite airport; I noticed a VFR tag hovering around and inside of the owb class D airspace; I inquired owb tower if they were talking to this aircraft. They were not. The airport was IMC; IMC approachs were being conducted at this time. I understand that owb (contract tower) is investigating this incident also. My point: GA pilots are buzzing around airports that are IMC; and worse; not communicating their presence (I figure for the obvious reasons). Why they are in the air at these times; I can only guess; but I hope you can get a message out to these people to broadcast their presence; that they monitor the CTAF; and let others know that they are in the vicinity. If they are lost; we will find them; we will help -- but don't just blunder around; it serves no one; and it will only lead to a mishap.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EVV CTLR DESCRIBED NMAC WHEN 2I0 IFR C130 DEP CONFLICTED WITH UNKNOWN TFC; VOICING CONCERN REGARDING VFR OPS IN MARGINAL WX.
Narrative: C130 ON VOR 23 APCH TO 2I0 ARPT; SWITCHED TO ADVISORY FREQ. ON DEP; PLT ASKED IF WE HAD BEEN TALKING TO ANYONE ELSE AT THAT ARPT DURING THEIR APCH; ADVISED THAT WE HAD NOT. C130 PLT THEN STATED THAT WHAT APPEARED TO BE AN AA-1 OR AA-5 LANDED IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THEM; AND THAT THE OTHER PLT HADN'T STATED ANYTHING ON THE ADVISORY FREQ AT ANY TIME. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND; THE PLT OF THE C130 SAW THE OTHER ACFT JUST AS THEY TOUCHED DOWN; AND IT WAS AN UNWELCOME SURPRISE WITH THE WX AS IT WAS. EARLIER IN THE DAY AT A SATELLITE ARPT; I NOTICED A VFR TAG HOVERING AROUND AND INSIDE OF THE OWB CLASS D AIRSPACE; I INQUIRED OWB TWR IF THEY WERE TALKING TO THIS ACFT. THEY WERE NOT. THE ARPT WAS IMC; IMC APCHS WERE BEING CONDUCTED AT THIS TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT OWB (CONTRACT TWR) IS INVESTIGATING THIS INCIDENT ALSO. MY POINT: GA PLTS ARE BUZZING AROUND ARPTS THAT ARE IMC; AND WORSE; NOT COMMUNICATING THEIR PRESENCE (I FIGURE FOR THE OBVIOUS REASONS). WHY THEY ARE IN THE AIR AT THESE TIMES; I CAN ONLY GUESS; BUT I HOPE YOU CAN GET A MESSAGE OUT TO THESE PEOPLE TO BROADCAST THEIR PRESENCE; THAT THEY MONITOR THE CTAF; AND LET OTHERS KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN THE VICINITY. IF THEY ARE LOST; WE WILL FIND THEM; WE WILL HELP -- BUT DON'T JUST BLUNDER AROUND; IT SERVES NO ONE; AND IT WILL ONLY LEAD TO A MISHAP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.