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Attributes | |
ACN | 777409 |
Time | |
Date | 200803 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzz.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Q400 (Formerly Dash 8-400) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzz.artcc |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 777409 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : wake turbulence |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight was en route to ZZZ level at FL240. We were on the xyz arrival. We were in and out of very thin cirrus type clouds and smooth air. We started to experience light chop that increased slightly in intensity. I noticed at that time the aircraft was rolling to the left and the control yoke was at approximately 25 degrees deflected to the right. I turned the autoplt off and the aircraft continued to roll left to 25 to 30 degrees. In an attempt to regain control I lowered the nose and continued the control input to stop the roll. I stabilized the roll and descent and began climbing back to the clearance altitude. When we started the descent a call was immediately made to ATC declaring our actions. This call went unanswered. As we descended we could see that the clouds we were in was actually a contrail from another aircraft and the turbulence we felt was their wake turbulence. I asked ATC what we were following and after 2 calls he told us we were 8 miles behind an MD80 also at FL240 and to return to FL240 and apologized for the situation. We said we would comply but we would offset the course to avoid further wake turbulence. The rest of the flight was uneventful. I can only come to the conclusion that the separation between aircraft was not adequate. It might be possible that unique atmospheric conditions were present to cause the wake turbulence from the MD80 to remain at the altitude. I don't think anyone is at fault for the situation and the altitude excursion was a result of the aircraft upset.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A Q400 AT FL240 8 NM IN TRAIL OF AN MD80 EXPERIENCED WAKE TURBULENCE.
Narrative: FLT WAS ENRTE TO ZZZ LEVEL AT FL240. WE WERE ON THE XYZ ARR. WE WERE IN AND OUT OF VERY THIN CIRRUS TYPE CLOUDS AND SMOOTH AIR. WE STARTED TO EXPERIENCE LIGHT CHOP THAT INCREASED SLIGHTLY IN INTENSITY. I NOTICED AT THAT TIME THE ACFT WAS ROLLING TO THE L AND THE CTL YOKE WAS AT APPROX 25 DEGS DEFLECTED TO THE R. I TURNED THE AUTOPLT OFF AND THE ACFT CONTINUED TO ROLL L TO 25 TO 30 DEGS. IN AN ATTEMPT TO REGAIN CTL I LOWERED THE NOSE AND CONTINUED THE CTL INPUT TO STOP THE ROLL. I STABILIZED THE ROLL AND DSCNT AND BEGAN CLBING BACK TO THE CLRNC ALTITUDE. WHEN WE STARTED THE DSCNT A CALL WAS IMMEDIATELY MADE TO ATC DECLARING OUR ACTIONS. THIS CALL WENT UNANSWERED. AS WE DSNDED WE COULD SEE THAT THE CLOUDS WE WERE IN WAS ACTUALLY A CONTRAIL FROM ANOTHER ACFT AND THE TURBULENCE WE FELT WAS THEIR WAKE TURBULENCE. I ASKED ATC WHAT WE WERE FOLLOWING AND AFTER 2 CALLS HE TOLD US WE WERE 8 MILES BEHIND AN MD80 ALSO AT FL240 AND TO RETURN TO FL240 AND APOLOGIZED FOR THE SITUATION. WE SAID WE WOULD COMPLY BUT WE WOULD OFFSET THE COURSE TO AVOID FURTHER WAKE TURBULENCE. THE REST OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. I CAN ONLY COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE SEPARATION BETWEEN ACFT WAS NOT ADEQUATE. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE THAT UNIQUE ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS WERE PRESENT TO CAUSE THE WAKE TURBULENCE FROM THE MD80 TO REMAIN AT THE ALTITUDE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS AT FAULT FOR THE SITUATION AND THE ALTITUDE EXCURSION WAS A RESULT OF THE ACFT UPSET.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.