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Attributes | |
ACN | 780198 |
Time | |
Date | 200803 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 780198 |
Events | |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were on rollout at lax when we were dinged by ACARS that I was being reassigned to fly a transcontinental flight (the all-nighter later that next evening) and to please confirm receipt by ACARS that I got the message. The ding startled both the captain and myself on the rollout during our landing. It was late; and I was quite tired. I called to address the issue of the timeliness of the ACARS message with crew scheduling; and they advised me that they had no control over when we get messages. I was reassigned to fly the all-nighter as they planned. Being tired; I just wanted my bed; and to get to the hotel room. The transportation was not there within 30 mins of arrival; so I took a cabin attendant to the hotel. Upon arrival at hotel; I found out there wasn't a reservation for me. I had to call crew accommodations; and after quite some time it was resolved; and I got to my room. When I got to my room; I wanted to check to see if the all-nighter assigned to me was a legal reassignment since it was just about an all-nighter that I had just flown into lax. If not the definition of an all-nighter; it was late night flying at the least by definition. The night before we were late getting into ZZZ and we landed there late. I found in the contract that it wasn't a legal reassignment to schedule back-to-back all-nighters. I called crew scheduling and told them how I felt that it wasn't a legal reassignment. They originally took me off the trip; to which I was relieved; but then called me back approximately 20 mins later to tell me I was back on the trip due to the reassignment being in the operation and not scheduled. I told the crew scheduling supervisor I'd call him when I woke up to advise him how I felt about actually taking the trip. By the time I fell asleep it was very late. I was very tired. I woke up and had gotten maybe 5.5 - 6 hours of sleep. I didn't even call crew scheduling. I called a flight manager supervisor and told him all that happened. I advised him that I thought me flying the all-nighter that evening was a safety issue; and that I didn't want to take the trip. He agreed with me; and I was removed from the trip. I deadheaded home; and was happy I didn't accept the all-nighter because I was extremely tired just from my deadhead that left a lot earlier than the all-nighter would have left.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FO REFUSES REASSIGNMENT DUE TO FATIGUE.
Narrative: WE WERE ON ROLLOUT AT LAX WHEN WE WERE DINGED BY ACARS THAT I WAS BEING REASSIGNED TO FLY A TRANSCONTINENTAL FLT (THE ALL-NIGHTER LATER THAT NEXT EVENING) AND TO PLEASE CONFIRM RECEIPT BY ACARS THAT I GOT THE MESSAGE. THE DING STARTLED BOTH THE CAPT AND MYSELF ON THE ROLLOUT DURING OUR LNDG. IT WAS LATE; AND I WAS QUITE TIRED. I CALLED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE TIMELINESS OF THE ACARS MESSAGE WITH CREW SCHEDULING; AND THEY ADVISED ME THAT THEY HAD NO CTL OVER WHEN WE GET MESSAGES. I WAS REASSIGNED TO FLY THE ALL-NIGHTER AS THEY PLANNED. BEING TIRED; I JUST WANTED MY BED; AND TO GET TO THE HOTEL ROOM. THE TRANSPORTATION WAS NOT THERE WITHIN 30 MINS OF ARR; SO I TOOK A CAB TO THE HOTEL. UPON ARR AT HOTEL; I FOUND OUT THERE WASN'T A RESERVATION FOR ME. I HAD TO CALL CREW ACCOMMODATIONS; AND AFTER QUITE SOME TIME IT WAS RESOLVED; AND I GOT TO MY ROOM. WHEN I GOT TO MY ROOM; I WANTED TO CHK TO SEE IF THE ALL-NIGHTER ASSIGNED TO ME WAS A LEGAL REASSIGNMENT SINCE IT WAS JUST ABOUT AN ALL-NIGHTER THAT I HAD JUST FLOWN INTO LAX. IF NOT THE DEFINITION OF AN ALL-NIGHTER; IT WAS LATE NIGHT FLYING AT THE LEAST BY DEFINITION. THE NIGHT BEFORE WE WERE LATE GETTING INTO ZZZ AND WE LANDED THERE LATE. I FOUND IN THE CONTRACT THAT IT WASN'T A LEGAL REASSIGNMENT TO SCHEDULE BACK-TO-BACK ALL-NIGHTERS. I CALLED CREW SCHEDULING AND TOLD THEM HOW I FELT THAT IT WASN'T A LEGAL REASSIGNMENT. THEY ORIGINALLY TOOK ME OFF THE TRIP; TO WHICH I WAS RELIEVED; BUT THEN CALLED ME BACK APPROX 20 MINS LATER TO TELL ME I WAS BACK ON THE TRIP DUE TO THE REASSIGNMENT BEING IN THE OP AND NOT SCHEDULED. I TOLD THE CREW SCHEDULING SUPVR I'D CALL HIM WHEN I WOKE UP TO ADVISE HIM HOW I FELT ABOUT ACTUALLY TAKING THE TRIP. BY THE TIME I FELL ASLEEP IT WAS VERY LATE. I WAS VERY TIRED. I WOKE UP AND HAD GOTTEN MAYBE 5.5 - 6 HRS OF SLEEP. I DIDN'T EVEN CALL CREW SCHEDULING. I CALLED A FLT MGR SUPVR AND TOLD HIM ALL THAT HAPPENED. I ADVISED HIM THAT I THOUGHT ME FLYING THE ALL-NIGHTER THAT EVENING WAS A SAFETY ISSUE; AND THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THE TRIP. HE AGREED WITH ME; AND I WAS REMOVED FROM THE TRIP. I DEADHEADED HOME; AND WAS HAPPY I DIDN'T ACCEPT THE ALL-NIGHTER BECAUSE I WAS EXTREMELY TIRED JUST FROM MY DEADHEAD THAT LEFT A LOT EARLIER THAN THE ALL-NIGHTER WOULD HAVE LEFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.