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Attributes | |
ACN | 782232 |
Time | |
Date | 200804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hnd.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 2800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hnd.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Eclipse 500 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 43 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 137 |
ASRS Report | 782232 |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While training a 1400 hour (over 20 yrs) pilot who had bought an eclipse 500 vlj and was awaiting his type rating training; we flew IFR to hnd; and then canceled IFR in order to do some VFR air work and lndgs in the jet. Although the client/'student' had done quite well the previous 4 days; he was not having a good day on this flight and required constant attention; as he was well behind the aircraft. On one of his landing approachs he was very wide abeam; had poor to no airspeed control and wouldn't bank over approximately 10 degrees; from base leg to final; despite my repeated calls for him to increase bank and tighten the turn. As a result; we may have drifted over the road that marks the southern boundary of the las class B airspace; which goes down to the surface at that point - our altitude was approximately 500 ft AGL. Just after my last call for him to tighten the turn and monitor his airspeed; the stall warning came on as he increased bank and added too much back pressure. I took over the controls and landed after telling him not to fight me; as I could feel and see his hand on the side stick. Even though I had demonstrated a VFR pattern to a low approach prior to his landing attempts; I think it would have been better to either let him fly a straight-in approach to a full stop; or just 'demonstration' the full stop landing myself. He had flown and landed well the previous 4 days; but this wasn't his day and I was too slow to recognize how far behind the aircraft he was. It won't happen again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ECLIPSE 500 STUDENT PILOT ENTERED THE CLASS B AIRSPACE OF ADJACENT ARPT WHILE FLYING A VFR TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: WHILE TRAINING A 1400 HR (OVER 20 YRS) PLT WHO HAD BOUGHT AN ECLIPSE 500 VLJ AND WAS AWAITING HIS TYPE RATING TRAINING; WE FLEW IFR TO HND; AND THEN CANCELED IFR IN ORDER TO DO SOME VFR AIR WORK AND LNDGS IN THE JET. ALTHOUGH THE CLIENT/'STUDENT' HAD DONE QUITE WELL THE PREVIOUS 4 DAYS; HE WAS NOT HAVING A GOOD DAY ON THIS FLT AND REQUIRED CONSTANT ATTN; AS HE WAS WELL BEHIND THE ACFT. ON ONE OF HIS LNDG APCHS HE WAS VERY WIDE ABEAM; HAD POOR TO NO AIRSPD CTL AND WOULDN'T BANK OVER APPROX 10 DEGS; FROM BASE LEG TO FINAL; DESPITE MY REPEATED CALLS FOR HIM TO INCREASE BANK AND TIGHTEN THE TURN. AS A RESULT; WE MAY HAVE DRIFTED OVER THE ROAD THAT MARKS THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE LAS CLASS B AIRSPACE; WHICH GOES DOWN TO THE SURFACE AT THAT POINT - OUR ALT WAS APPROX 500 FT AGL. JUST AFTER MY LAST CALL FOR HIM TO TIGHTEN THE TURN AND MONITOR HIS AIRSPD; THE STALL WARNING CAME ON AS HE INCREASED BANK AND ADDED TOO MUCH BACK PRESSURE. I TOOK OVER THE CTLS AND LANDED AFTER TELLING HIM NOT TO FIGHT ME; AS I COULD FEEL AND SEE HIS HAND ON THE SIDE STICK. EVEN THOUGH I HAD DEMONSTRATED A VFR PATTERN TO A LOW APCH PRIOR TO HIS LNDG ATTEMPTS; I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO EITHER LET HIM FLY A STRAIGHT-IN APCH TO A FULL STOP; OR JUST 'DEMO' THE FULL STOP LNDG MYSELF. HE HAD FLOWN AND LANDED WELL THE PREVIOUS 4 DAYS; BUT THIS WASN'T HIS DAY AND I WAS TOO SLOW TO RECOGNIZE HOW FAR BEHIND THE ACFT HE WAS. IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.