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Attributes | |
ACN | 784685 |
Time | |
Date | 200804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rbw.airport |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | agl single value : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 380 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 784685 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac maintenance problem : improper maintenance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | communication equipment : 01g.fss |
Narrative:
I set up and entered a downwind approach to runway 17. A helicopter called 'departing 17.' I then made a radio call that I was downwind runway 17. I flew a tight pattern (roughly 1/2 mi) to avoid a collision in the traffic pattern; if (I was unknown to the helicopter's intentions) the helicopter was going to remain in the traffic pattern. After I turned and then called for the base leg; I heard the helicopter call downwind runway 17 nonstandard pattern with right turn; while I was in a standard pattern with left turns; but was unable to find the helicopter in the pattern. I then turned final and was on a very short final when I heard the helicopter make a radio call for base runway 17. I looked out my right window to see the helicopter 500 ft and closing. The course was not collision; but was too close for comfort. I made the radio call for short final runway 17; and as I made the call; the helicopter performed a 360 degree turn in the pattern for spacing. After that; the helicopters made standard traffic patterns for the remainder of the day. The situation was corrected; but part of the problem was the helicopter pilot not listening to other radio calls. I have been flying at low country regional airport for 3 months and have had at least 1 near miss (most of them in or near the traffic pattern) every month. Low country regional airport is a busy airport for all types; category; and class of aircraft. I feel an ATC tower would alleviate these problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMA REPORTS NMAC IN PATTERN WITH HELI FLYING NON-STANDARD RIGHT HAND PATTERNS AND NOT RESPONDING TO CTAF TRANSMISSIONS.
Narrative: I SET UP AND ENTERED A DOWNWIND APCH TO RWY 17. A HELI CALLED 'DEPARTING 17.' I THEN MADE A RADIO CALL THAT I WAS DOWNWIND RWY 17. I FLEW A TIGHT PATTERN (ROUGHLY 1/2 MI) TO AVOID A COLLISION IN THE TFC PATTERN; IF (I WAS UNKNOWN TO THE HELI'S INTENTIONS) THE HELI WAS GOING TO REMAIN IN THE TFC PATTERN. AFTER I TURNED AND THEN CALLED FOR THE BASE LEG; I HEARD THE HELI CALL DOWNWIND RWY 17 NONSTANDARD PATTERN WITH R TURN; WHILE I WAS IN A STANDARD PATTERN WITH L TURNS; BUT WAS UNABLE TO FIND THE HELI IN THE PATTERN. I THEN TURNED FINAL AND WAS ON A VERY SHORT FINAL WHEN I HEARD THE HELI MAKE A RADIO CALL FOR BASE RWY 17. I LOOKED OUT MY R WINDOW TO SEE THE HELI 500 FT AND CLOSING. THE COURSE WAS NOT COLLISION; BUT WAS TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT. I MADE THE RADIO CALL FOR SHORT FINAL RWY 17; AND AS I MADE THE CALL; THE HELI PERFORMED A 360 DEG TURN IN THE PATTERN FOR SPACING. AFTER THAT; THE HELIS MADE STANDARD TFC PATTERNS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY. THE SITUATION WAS CORRECTED; BUT PART OF THE PROB WAS THE HELI PLT NOT LISTENING TO OTHER RADIO CALLS. I HAVE BEEN FLYING AT LOW COUNTRY REGIONAL ARPT FOR 3 MONTHS AND HAVE HAD AT LEAST 1 NEAR MISS (MOST OF THEM IN OR NEAR THE TFC PATTERN) EVERY MONTH. LOW COUNTRY REGIONAL ARPT IS A BUSY ARPT FOR ALL TYPES; CATEGORY; AND CLASS OF ACFT. I FEEL AN ATC TWR WOULD ALLEVIATE THESE PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.