37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 785430 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 21000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzz.artcc tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 218 |
ASRS Report | 785430 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 259 flight time type : 259 |
ASRS Report | 785431 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Climbing out of ZZZ1 going east; ATC gave us an off-course vector during the climb; then a few mins later back on-course and climb to FL210. TCAS advisory for traffic was received in the climb for traffic above us and apparently in transit to possibly a lower altitude. We had visual sighting of the aircraft. Our aircraft was on autoplt but climbing rapidly due to a light load. Around FL205 the MCP altitude acquired mode engaged followed shortly by a TCAS RA to adjust vertical speed. The autoplt was already leveling at FL210 so I let it continue the leveloff at the assigned altitude of FL210. We did not exceed or overshoot the altitude; but the aircraft above us received an RA and it climbed up into the path of another aircraft. It seems that the crossing of 3 aircraft at 3 different altitudes at just this moment was the cause of this one. About 5 mins or so later; on another ZZZ frequency; the ATC controller asked us if we had been level at the assigned altitude of FL210. The first officer confirmed it. All aircraft were assigned altitudes in a close approximation to each other. Normally there would probably have not been a problem; but I think our higher than normal climb rate triggered the TCAS system on the aircraft above us. Although nothing from my view was done incorrectly; it seems that having 3 aircraft converging while in transition could lead to future problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 FLT CREW EXPERIENCED A TCAS RA WHILE LEVELING OFF AT THEIR ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF ZZZ1 GOING E; ATC GAVE US AN OFF-COURSE VECTOR DURING THE CLB; THEN A FEW MINS LATER BACK ON-COURSE AND CLB TO FL210. TCAS ADVISORY FOR TFC WAS RECEIVED IN THE CLB FOR TFC ABOVE US AND APPARENTLY IN TRANSIT TO POSSIBLY A LOWER ALT. WE HAD VISUAL SIGHTING OF THE ACFT. OUR ACFT WAS ON AUTOPLT BUT CLBING RAPIDLY DUE TO A LIGHT LOAD. AROUND FL205 THE MCP ALT ACQUIRED MODE ENGAGED FOLLOWED SHORTLY BY A TCAS RA TO ADJUST VERT SPD. THE AUTOPLT WAS ALREADY LEVELING AT FL210 SO I LET IT CONTINUE THE LEVELOFF AT THE ASSIGNED ALT OF FL210. WE DID NOT EXCEED OR OVERSHOOT THE ALT; BUT THE ACFT ABOVE US RECEIVED AN RA AND IT CLBED UP INTO THE PATH OF ANOTHER ACFT. IT SEEMS THAT THE XING OF 3 ACFT AT 3 DIFFERENT ALTS AT JUST THIS MOMENT WAS THE CAUSE OF THIS ONE. ABOUT 5 MINS OR SO LATER; ON ANOTHER ZZZ FREQ; THE ATC CTLR ASKED US IF WE HAD BEEN LEVEL AT THE ASSIGNED ALT OF FL210. THE FO CONFIRMED IT. ALL ACFT WERE ASSIGNED ALTS IN A CLOSE APPROXIMATION TO EACH OTHER. NORMALLY THERE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE NOT BEEN A PROB; BUT I THINK OUR HIGHER THAN NORMAL CLB RATE TRIGGERED THE TCAS SYS ON THE ACFT ABOVE US. ALTHOUGH NOTHING FROM MY VIEW WAS DONE INCORRECTLY; IT SEEMS THAT HAVING 3 ACFT CONVERGING WHILE IN TRANSITION COULD LEAD TO FUTURE PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.