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Attributes | |
ACN | 786387 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vidp.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 msl single value : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | departure sid : ani 1a |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 139 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 786387 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : foreign |
Function | controller : departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During preflight; with flight plan and WX and NOTAMS delivered to the aircraft; captain and first officer failed to see a NOTAM imbedded on page 13 of 19 pages. The NOTAMS were all incorrectly printed with no indents to distinguish new subjects. The NOTAM changed; completely; the ani 1A SID. The SID is not given until approximately 20 mins before push back; and both pilots failed to realize the change. The aircraft is FMS and the database had been changed within the last two days; but the new database didn't have the new ani 1A SID. The commercial chart change pages did not contain the information of the change either. The only place to find it was embedded on page 13 of 19. The ani 1A SID was flown as depicted in the FMS. At approximately 9000 ft; a controller came on the radio informing us of our error; but she spoke so quickly we couldn't understand anything she said. We asked her several times for clarification and to slow down so we could understand her; but we never could. It was only later when we were above 10000 ft and we could pull out the NOTAMS and recheck did we realize what she was saying about the change in the ground track of the SID. We were VFR; no other aircraft were affected that we know of and no safety of flight was jeopardized.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB FLT CREW FAILS TO NOTE A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IN ASSIGNED SID FROM VIDP BECAUSE THE INFO WAS BURIED IN 19 PAGES OF UN-ANNOTATED NOTAMS.
Narrative: DURING PREFLT; WITH FLT PLAN AND WX AND NOTAMS DELIVERED TO THE ACFT; CAPT AND FO FAILED TO SEE A NOTAM IMBEDDED ON PAGE 13 OF 19 PAGES. THE NOTAMS WERE ALL INCORRECTLY PRINTED WITH NO INDENTS TO DISTINGUISH NEW SUBJECTS. THE NOTAM CHANGED; COMPLETELY; THE ANI 1A SID. THE SID IS NOT GIVEN UNTIL APPROX 20 MINS BEFORE PUSH BACK; AND BOTH PLTS FAILED TO REALIZE THE CHANGE. THE ACFT IS FMS AND THE DATABASE HAD BEEN CHANGED WITHIN THE LAST TWO DAYS; BUT THE NEW DATABASE DIDN'T HAVE THE NEW ANI 1A SID. THE COMMERCIAL CHART CHANGE PAGES DID NOT CONTAIN THE INFORMATION OF THE CHANGE EITHER. THE ONLY PLACE TO FIND IT WAS EMBEDDED ON PAGE 13 OF 19. THE ANI 1A SID WAS FLOWN AS DEPICTED IN THE FMS. AT APPROX 9000 FT; A CTLR CAME ON THE RADIO INFORMING US OF OUR ERROR; BUT SHE SPOKE SO QUICKLY WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING SHE SAID. WE ASKED HER SEVERAL TIMES FOR CLARIFICATION AND TO SLOW DOWN SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND HER; BUT WE NEVER COULD. IT WAS ONLY LATER WHEN WE WERE ABOVE 10000 FT AND WE COULD PULL OUT THE NOTAMS AND RECHECK DID WE REALIZE WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE CHANGE IN THE GND TRACK OF THE SID. WE WERE VFR; NO OTHER ACFT WERE AFFECTED THAT WE KNOW OF AND NO SAFETY OF FLT WAS JEOPARDIZED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.