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Attributes | |
ACN | 786421 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 786421 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 786087 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated flight crew : executed go around |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Publication | QRH |
Narrative:
On final approach we selected the landing gear lever down. The main gear showed down and locked. However; the nose gear showed up. We executed a go around and followed the QRH procedure; as well as all other required checklists. In following the QRH; the gear was cycled up and back down and showed down and locked. We made a normal landing. No further actions were necessary. I do have one recommendation that pertains to the verbiage in the QRH. When finding the appropriate checklist under emergency; under the gear disagree message checklist; there is a gear up disagree message and a gear dn disagree message. I believe that changing these to read 'gear selected up' and 'gear selected dn' would clear up any confusion as to the status of the gear. If you look at 'gear up disagree' that could mean to you that one of your gear (nose; or either main) is in the up position; not that the lever is selected in the up position. This could lead you to follow the wrong checklist. It took us a minute to look and find the appropriate checklist and simply changing the verbiage could save future crews time when searching for this checklist.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE CRJ200 QRH 'GEAR DN' AND 'GEAR UP' DISAGREE ANNUNCIATIONS WOULD BE CLEARER IF WORDED 'GEAR SELECTED DN' AND 'GEAR SELECTED UP.'
Narrative: ON FINAL APCH WE SELECTED THE LNDG GEAR LEVER DOWN. THE MAIN GEAR SHOWED DOWN AND LOCKED. HOWEVER; THE NOSE GEAR SHOWED UP. WE EXECUTED A GAR AND FOLLOWED THE QRH PROC; AS WELL AS ALL OTHER REQUIRED CHKLISTS. IN FOLLOWING THE QRH; THE GEAR WAS CYCLED UP AND BACK DOWN AND SHOWED DOWN AND LOCKED. WE MADE A NORMAL LNDG. NO FURTHER ACTIONS WERE NECESSARY. I DO HAVE ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT PERTAINS TO THE VERBIAGE IN THE QRH. WHEN FINDING THE APPROPRIATE CHKLIST UNDER EMER; UNDER THE GEAR DISAGREE MSG CHKLIST; THERE IS A GEAR UP DISAGREE MESSAGE AND A GEAR DN DISAGREE MESSAGE. I BELIEVE THAT CHANGING THESE TO READ 'GEAR SELECTED UP' AND 'GEAR SELECTED DN' WOULD CLEAR UP ANY CONFUSION AS TO THE STATUS OF THE GEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT 'GEAR UP DISAGREE' THAT COULD MEAN TO YOU THAT ONE OF YOUR GEAR (NOSE; OR EITHER MAIN) IS IN THE UP POSITION; NOT THAT THE LEVER IS SELECTED IN THE UP POSITION. THIS COULD LEAD YOU TO FOLLOW THE WRONG CHKLIST. IT TOOK US A MINUTE TO LOOK AND FIND THE APPROPRIATE CHKLIST AND SIMPLY CHANGING THE VERBIAGE COULD SAVE FUTURE CREWS TIME WHEN SEARCHING FOR THIS CHKLIST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.