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Attributes | |
ACN | 787705 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 724 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 787705 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Captain was PF being radar vectored on a right downwind to the runway with adequate and reasonable spacing from the runway. Captain instructed me to call the airport in sight and we were subsequently cleared for the visual approach. The captain then made an immediate turn toward the runway and began a close-in and extremely unstabilized visual approach. The GPWS issued warnings for both sink rate and bank angle during the approach. At 400 ft AGL; the aircraft was in an uncoord 35 degree bank; engines unspooled; vref +20 KIAS; and a sink rate of 1200 FPM with the captain attempting to correct for the overshoot of the runway centerline during the turn; base to final. At this time; I began to loudly and vehemently express my discomfort. The captain responded with 'are you uncomfortable? It's coming in.' the approach and landing were completed with the aircraft attaining our company's parameters for a stabilized approach at 100 ft AGL. In the chocks at the gate; I asked the captain why he insisted on making these type of approachs; and he responded by mumbling something about misreading the wind?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC-9 FO WAS CRITICAL OF HIS CAPT'S UNSTABILIZED APCH.
Narrative: CAPT WAS PF BEING RADAR VECTORED ON A R DOWNWIND TO THE RWY WITH ADEQUATE AND REASONABLE SPACING FROM THE RWY. CAPT INSTRUCTED ME TO CALL THE ARPT IN SIGHT AND WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH. THE CAPT THEN MADE AN IMMEDIATE TURN TOWARD THE RWY AND BEGAN A CLOSE-IN AND EXTREMELY UNSTABILIZED VISUAL APCH. THE GPWS ISSUED WARNINGS FOR BOTH SINK RATE AND BANK ANGLE DURING THE APCH. AT 400 FT AGL; THE ACFT WAS IN AN UNCOORD 35 DEG BANK; ENGS UNSPOOLED; VREF +20 KIAS; AND A SINK RATE OF 1200 FPM WITH THE CAPT ATTEMPTING TO CORRECT FOR THE OVERSHOOT OF THE RWY CTRLINE DURING THE TURN; BASE TO FINAL. AT THIS TIME; I BEGAN TO LOUDLY AND VEHEMENTLY EXPRESS MY DISCOMFORT. THE CAPT RESPONDED WITH 'ARE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE? IT'S COMING IN.' THE APCH AND LNDG WERE COMPLETED WITH THE ACFT ATTAINING OUR COMPANY'S PARAMETERS FOR A STABILIZED APCH AT 100 FT AGL. IN THE CHOCKS AT THE GATE; I ASKED THE CAPT WHY HE INSISTED ON MAKING THESE TYPE OF APCHS; AND HE RESPONDED BY MUMBLING SOMETHING ABOUT MISREADING THE WIND?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.