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Attributes | |
ACN | 788592 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tvl.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rno.tracon |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 18 other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 788592 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While descending for tvl we requested vectors hoping to get the visual approach. We then decided since we were both unfamiliar with the area we should ask for the lda/DME-1 runway 18. We then received a vector and lower altitude for the lda/DME-1 runway 18 approach at tvl. We were asked by center if we were going to be able to make the approach from there. We decided they must think we are too high to make the descent. We responded indicating we would be able to make it. We were handed off to reno approach. We were VMC and the captain stated; this is the lake (by the airport). I believed I could see the runway and stated where I thought it was. The captain stated the airport would not be in the position indicated. We looked at the approach plate and agreed it was not the airport I was seeing. The captain then initiated a descent over the lake. I pointed out we had not intercepted the lda and were not receiving any DME. I stated we should not descend until we are on the lda and had reached a step down point. The captain indicated we were visual so it did not matter. Reno approach called us and told us to check altitude and gave us an altimeter setting. Reno approach then called us and stated an altitude alert; stated the minimum altitude; and what altitude they were showing us at. The captain immediately climbed to the minimum altitude. We then realized the lake we were descending over was not the lake by the airport we were landing at. We had been descending over a smaller lake to the northeast. Contributing factors: not adhering to SOP. Loss of situational awareness. Lack of CRM. Fatigue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CITATION FO REPORTS DESCENDING BELOW MSA WHILE VISUALLY SEARCHING FOR TVL ARPT.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING FOR TVL WE REQUESTED VECTORS HOPING TO GET THE VISUAL APCH. WE THEN DECIDED SINCE WE WERE BOTH UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA WE SHOULD ASK FOR THE LDA/DME-1 RWY 18. WE THEN RECEIVED A VECTOR AND LOWER ALT FOR THE LDA/DME-1 RWY 18 APCH AT TVL. WE WERE ASKED BY CTR IF WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE APCH FROM THERE. WE DECIDED THEY MUST THINK WE ARE TOO HIGH TO MAKE THE DSCNT. WE RESPONDED INDICATING WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO RENO APCH. WE WERE VMC AND THE CAPT STATED; THIS IS THE LAKE (BY THE ARPT). I BELIEVED I COULD SEE THE RWY AND STATED WHERE I THOUGHT IT WAS. THE CAPT STATED THE ARPT WOULD NOT BE IN THE POS INDICATED. WE LOOKED AT THE APCH PLATE AND AGREED IT WAS NOT THE ARPT I WAS SEEING. THE CAPT THEN INITIATED A DSCNT OVER THE LAKE. I POINTED OUT WE HAD NOT INTERCEPTED THE LDA AND WERE NOT RECEIVING ANY DME. I STATED WE SHOULD NOT DSND UNTIL WE ARE ON THE LDA AND HAD REACHED A STEP DOWN POINT. THE CAPT INDICATED WE WERE VISUAL SO IT DID NOT MATTER. RENO APCH CALLED US AND TOLD US TO CHK ALT AND GAVE US AN ALTIMETER SETTING. RENO APCH THEN CALLED US AND STATED AN ALT ALERT; STATED THE MINIMUM ALT; AND WHAT ALT THEY WERE SHOWING US AT. THE CAPT IMMEDIATELY CLBED TO THE MINIMUM ALT. WE THEN REALIZED THE LAKE WE WERE DSNDING OVER WAS NOT THE LAKE BY THE ARPT WE WERE LNDG AT. WE HAD BEEN DSNDING OVER A SMALLER LAKE TO THE NE. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: NOT ADHERING TO SOP. LOSS OF SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. LACK OF CRM. FATIGUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.