<< >> NASA ASRS Report 790742, June 2008

Dispatch notified an air carrier pilot that a cdl weight restriction was erroneously removed from the previous flight but actually still applied. Cdl's are no longer in the aircraft for crew reference.

Attributes
ACN	790742
Time
Date	200806
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz.airport
State Reference	US
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turboprop Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : parked ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	790742
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Company Aircraft
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

Before leaving ZZZ dispatch SELCAL'ed to tell us that the weight penalty of 700 pounds for the fairings being removed was deleted from the release when the cdl still applied. They said that it should have been applied for the previous flight but it wasn't. I checked our weight from that previous leg and there were no overweight issues. We applied the weight penalty for the next leg and there were no further complications. The cdl was listed on the release but the weight penalty was not applied to the performance. I did not realize that the weight penalty still existed because we do not have direct access to that cdl. It seems we should have direct access to that information because it adversely affects our performance and our maximum weight penalties. Dispatch did not say why the information was deleted from the release; but apologized.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DISPATCH NOTIFIED AN ACR PILOT THAT A CDL WT RESTRICTION WAS ERRONEOUSLY REMOVED FROM THE PREVIOUS FLT BUT ACTUALLY STILL APPLIED. CDL'S ARE NO LONGER IN THE ACFT FOR CREW REFERENCE.

Narrative: BEFORE LEAVING ZZZ DISPATCH SELCAL'ED TO TELL US THAT THE WT PENALTY OF 700 LBS FOR THE FAIRINGS BEING REMOVED WAS DELETED FROM THE RELEASE WHEN THE CDL STILL APPLIED. THEY SAID THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR THE PREVIOUS FLT BUT IT WASN'T. I CHKED OUR WT FROM THAT PREVIOUS LEG AND THERE WERE NO OVERWT ISSUES. WE APPLIED THE WT PENALTY FOR THE NEXT LEG AND THERE WERE NO FURTHER COMPLICATIONS. THE CDL WAS LISTED ON THE RELEASE BUT THE WT PENALTY WAS NOT APPLIED TO THE PERFORMANCE. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE WT PENALTY STILL EXISTED BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THAT CDL. IT SEEMS WE SHOULD HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THAT INFO BECAUSE IT ADVERSELY AFFECTS OUR PERFORMANCE AND OUR MAX WT PENALTIES. DISPATCH DID NOT SAY WHY THE INFO WAS DELETED FROM THE RELEASE; BUT APOLOGIZED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.