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Attributes | |
ACN | 791771 |
Time | |
Date | 200806 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1285 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 791771 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
Received clearance via pre departure clearance. Pre departure clearance listed both filed route and cleared route. Sic copied filed route onto told card. Upon departure control sent us direct to a fix that was not on our 'clearance.' a quick question cleared up the confusion and no harm or foul occurred. Pre departure clearance is an accident waiting to happen. Format is not similar to radio clearance and when a clearance is issued that is different than filed; both are included on the screen. This invites trouble as in this case. We recently made this an item at a safety meeting but still missed it in this particular case. Now; procedurally; both pilots will check pre departure clearance for the correct clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CE560 RCVD CLRNC TO A FIX NOT ON THE FILED ROUTING. THE PDC CLRNC CONTAINED THE CORRECT RTE BUT IT WAS MISSED BY BOTH PLTS.
Narrative: RECEIVED CLEARANCE VIA PDC. PDC LISTED BOTH FILED RTE AND CLEARED RTE. SIC COPIED FILED RTE ONTO TOLD CARD. UPON DEP CTL SENT US DIRECT TO A FIX THAT WAS NOT ON OUR 'CLRNC.' A QUICK QUESTION CLEARED UP THE CONFUSION AND NO HARM OR FOUL OCCURRED. PDC IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN. FORMAT IS NOT SIMILAR TO RADIO CLRNC AND WHEN A CLRNC IS ISSUED THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN FILED; BOTH ARE INCLUDED ON THE SCREEN. THIS INVITES TROUBLE AS IN THIS CASE. WE RECENTLY MADE THIS AN ITEM AT A SAFETY MEETING BUT STILL MISSED IT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. NOW; PROCEDURALLY; BOTH PLTS WILL CHECK PDC FOR THE CORRECT CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.