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Attributes | |
ACN | 792299 |
Time | |
Date | 200806 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 792299 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We received our clearance via pre departure clearance. We had been warned by our company to be careful and make sure we have the correct departure SID since RNAV sids are becoming popular. Our aircraft is not yet approved for RNAV departures. In the past I have caught on the pre departure clearance an RNAV clearance and then had the clearance delivery correct it. This day I did not catch the RNAV departure. I have been flying out of mia for yrs on the basic departure and it is always the same. This day they slipped in the RNAV departure. I should have caught it. It was not until the departure controller told us to go direct to a fix we did not have in our FMC that the error was observed. It did not present a big problem this day; but we were in the wrong. To correct this problem in the future; I would recommend that if it is going to be an RNAV SID or STAR; there should be the word 'RNAV' preceding the name of the procedure. This would have alerted us. This has happened to other crews both on sids and stars.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 WAS ISSUED A PDC CLRNC THAT INCLUDED AN RNAV DEP. THIS ACFT WAS UNABLE TO FLY THE RNAV; BUT DEPARTED AND DISCOVERED THE ERROR AIRBORNE.
Narrative: WE RECEIVED OUR CLRNC VIA PDC. WE HAD BEEN WARNED BY OUR COMPANY TO BE CAREFUL AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CORRECT DEP SID SINCE RNAV SIDS ARE BECOMING POPULAR. OUR ACFT IS NOT YET APPROVED FOR RNAV DEPS. IN THE PAST I HAVE CAUGHT ON THE PDC AN RNAV CLRNC AND THEN HAD THE CLRNC DELIVERY CORRECT IT. THIS DAY I DID NOT CATCH THE RNAV DEP. I HAVE BEEN FLYING OUT OF MIA FOR YRS ON THE BASIC DEP AND IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME. THIS DAY THEY SLIPPED IN THE RNAV DEP. I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT. IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE DEP CTLR TOLD US TO GO DIRECT TO A FIX WE DID NOT HAVE IN OUR FMC THAT THE ERROR WAS OBSERVED. IT DID NOT PRESENT A BIG PROB THIS DAY; BUT WE WERE IN THE WRONG. TO CORRECT THIS PROB IN THE FUTURE; I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF IT IS GOING TO BE AN RNAV SID OR STAR; THERE SHOULD BE THE WORD 'RNAV' PRECEDING THE NAME OF THE PROC. THIS WOULD HAVE ALERTED US. THIS HAS HAPPENED TO OTHER CREWS BOTH ON SIDS AND STARS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.