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Attributes | |
ACN | 793857 |
Time | |
Date | 200807 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fll.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 793857 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 793862 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on my captain IOE as a new captain. My IOE captain told me on the leg down to fll that the controllers at fll need to be watched carefully. He had seen 2 or 3 questionable events take place at fll; and told me to be on my toes. Not an hour later; we were taxiing out for takeoff on runway 9L. We were #2 in line; beside a B737; that was evidently being held for some reason. We had both engines running and were ready for takeoff. Tower told us to taxi into position and hold; and be ready to go. (Traffic there is very busy; with only one major runway; and they try to squeeze traffic in and out...I understand.) we promptly taxied onto the runway. Another controller (different voice) then told us to vacate the runway as quickly as possible. We could only do a quick 180 degrees to the left back off of the runway. Evidently; the second controller thought the traffic on final was too close in. As soon as we had taxied off the runway and turned around; an aircraft landed; and we were told to taxi into position and hold; and to be ready to go (again). We taxied into position; and were cleared for an immediate takeoff. As I brought the power up; the IOE captain pointed out the preceding aircraft was still on the runway...not just the tail; but the entire aircraft was still on the runway. I went back to idle and held the brakes until the aircraft had cleared the runway. Then we took off. The rest of the takeoff was uneventful. It appears that the fast pace of the fll airport is jeopardizing the operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR IOE CAPT AND INSTRUCTOR COMMENT ON FLL ATCT TRAFFIC HANDLING AND THE DANGEROUS OPERATION WITH A SINGLE RWY AND HEAVY TFC.
Narrative: I WAS ON MY CAPT IOE AS A NEW CAPT. MY IOE CAPT TOLD ME ON THE LEG DOWN TO FLL THAT THE CTLRS AT FLL NEED TO BE WATCHED CAREFULLY. HE HAD SEEN 2 OR 3 QUESTIONABLE EVENTS TAKE PLACE AT FLL; AND TOLD ME TO BE ON MY TOES. NOT AN HR LATER; WE WERE TAXIING OUT FOR TKOF ON RWY 9L. WE WERE #2 IN LINE; BESIDE A B737; THAT WAS EVIDENTLY BEING HELD FOR SOME REASON. WE HAD BOTH ENGS RUNNING AND WERE READY FOR TKOF. TWR TOLD US TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD; AND BE READY TO GO. (TFC THERE IS VERY BUSY; WITH ONLY ONE MAJOR RWY; AND THEY TRY TO SQUEEZE TFC IN AND OUT...I UNDERSTAND.) WE PROMPTLY TAXIED ONTO THE RWY. ANOTHER CTLR (DIFFERENT VOICE) THEN TOLD US TO VACATE THE RWY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE COULD ONLY DO A QUICK 180 DEGS TO THE L BACK OFF OF THE RWY. EVIDENTLY; THE SECOND CTLR THOUGHT THE TFC ON FINAL WAS TOO CLOSE IN. AS SOON AS WE HAD TAXIED OFF THE RWY AND TURNED AROUND; AN ACFT LANDED; AND WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD; AND TO BE READY TO GO (AGAIN). WE TAXIED INTO POS; AND WERE CLRED FOR AN IMMEDIATE TKOF. AS I BROUGHT THE PWR UP; THE IOE CAPT POINTED OUT THE PRECEDING ACFT WAS STILL ON THE RWY...NOT JUST THE TAIL; BUT THE ENTIRE ACFT WAS STILL ON THE RWY. I WENT BACK TO IDLE AND HELD THE BRAKES UNTIL THE ACFT HAD CLRED THE RWY. THEN WE TOOK OFF. THE REST OF THE TKOF WAS UNEVENTFUL. IT APPEARS THAT THE FAST PACE OF THE FLL ARPT IS JEOPARDIZING THE OP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.