A320 first officer believes ATIS at ord fails to provide adequate runway remaining information when ...

Attributes
ACN	794145
Time
Date	200807
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ord.airport
State Reference	IL
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	A320
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 6800
ASRS Report	794145
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	FAA ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airport
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : ord.tower

Narrative:

During taxi for takeoff we were re-assigned runway 32R. We taxied to and departed runway 32R. ATIS information indicated runway 32R as a departure runway; along with runway 32L from intersection T10 with available runway remaining. ATIS also provided other information regarding birds; ground operations of transponder etc. However -- ATIS did not state that the full length of runway 32R was not available. After departure; and a second review of the seemingly endless NOTAMS; it became apparent that the full length was not available; and an alternative performance code should be used to obtain weights/speeds for runway 32R. We re-ran the numbers and verified that; indeed; our performance numbers were adequate even given the reduced runway length. My point: ATIS should specify the closure of a certain length of a runway -- particularly since they are yielding that information for another runway also in use. I recognize that the NOTAMS are a responsibility; but given the potential significance for the issue at hand; the ATIS should emphasize the characteristics of all runways in use.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A320 FO BELIEVES ATIS AT ORD FAILS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE RWY REMAINING INFORMATION WHEN LESS THAN FULL LENGTH IS AVAILABLE.

Narrative: DURING TAXI FOR TKOF WE WERE RE-ASSIGNED RWY 32R. WE TAXIED TO AND DEPARTED RWY 32R. ATIS INFO INDICATED RWY 32R AS A DEP RWY; ALONG WITH RWY 32L FROM INTXN T10 WITH AVAILABLE RWY REMAINING. ATIS ALSO PROVIDED OTHER INFO REGARDING BIRDS; GND OPS OF XPONDER ETC. HOWEVER -- ATIS DID NOT STATE THAT THE FULL LENGTH OF RWY 32R WAS NOT AVAILABLE. AFTER DEP; AND A SECOND REVIEW OF THE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS NOTAMS; IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THE FULL LENGTH WAS NOT AVAILABLE; AND AN ALTERNATIVE PERFORMANCE CODE SHOULD BE USED TO OBTAIN WTS/SPDS FOR RWY 32R. WE RE-RAN THE NUMBERS AND VERIFIED THAT; INDEED; OUR PERFORMANCE NUMBERS WERE ADEQUATE EVEN GIVEN THE REDUCED RWY LENGTH. MY POINT: ATIS SHOULD SPECIFY THE CLOSURE OF A CERTAIN LENGTH OF A RWY -- PARTICULARLY SINCE THEY ARE YIELDING THAT INFORMATION FOR ANOTHER RWY ALSO IN USE. I RECOGNIZE THAT THE NOTAMS ARE A RESPONSIBILITY; BUT GIVEN THE POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE ISSUE AT HAND; THE ATIS SHOULD EMPHASIZE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF ALL RWYS IN USE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A320 first officer believes ATIS at ord fails to provide adequate runway remaining information when less than full length is available.