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Attributes | |
ACN | 795018 |
Time | |
Date | 200807 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 795018 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Company |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
My dispatcher told me that I did not need an alternate because I was off the gate; I was airborne. The WX was 300 and 1 1/2 at my destination forecast was update to 300 and 1 for my arrival. I ask for an alternate; that is when I was told I did not need one. This statement had lots of attitude. I hung up the phone and called and asked for a supervisor; and told him the same thing; WX; I was then issued an alternate this required a gate return for additional fuel. Why was my dispatcher willing to send the passenger out without the required alternate; into bad WX without the necessary fuel? What pressures are they under?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 CAPT DISCOVERS AFTER PUSH BACK THAT WX AT DESTINATION NOW REQUIRES AN ALTERNATE. DISPATCHER DISAGREES; CAPT PREVAILS.
Narrative: MY DISPATCHER TOLD ME THAT I DID NOT NEED AN ALTERNATE BECAUSE I WAS OFF THE GATE; I WAS AIRBORNE. THE WX WAS 300 AND 1 1/2 AT MY DEST FORECAST WAS UPDATE TO 300 AND 1 FOR MY ARR. I ASK FOR AN ALTERNATE; THAT IS WHEN I WAS TOLD I DID NOT NEED ONE. THIS STATEMENT HAD LOTS OF ATTITUDE. I HUNG UP THE PHONE AND CALLED AND ASKED FOR A SUPVR; AND TOLD HIM THE SAME THING; WX; I WAS THEN ISSUED AN ALTERNATE THIS REQUIRED A GATE RETURN FOR ADDITIONAL FUEL. WHY WAS MY DISPATCHER WILLING TO SEND THE PAX OUT WITHOUT THE REQUIRED ALTERNATE; INTO BAD WX WITHOUT THE NECESSARY FUEL? WHAT PRESSURES ARE THEY UNDER?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.