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Attributes | |
ACN | 797698 |
Time | |
Date | 200807 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tus.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 797698 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : tus.tracon |
Narrative:
Every time I have gone to tus and they are landing on runway 29L; I have not been able to get down in a safe manner due to the mandatory altitude of 5300 ft on the approach for the RNAV runway 29L when being vectored. Kept trying to get lower altitude. We ended up getting cleared for the visual approach and were still fighting to get down. ATC keeps us up too high (possibly because of MVA's). ATC needs to be aware that we need to cross the mandatory altitude at 180 KTS without using spoilers or gear. Possibly en route vectors to an area that allows lower altitudes sooner (wider approach area).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 CAPTAIN COMPLAINS THAT ATC KEEPS THEM TOO HIGH WHEN VECTORING FOR THE RNAV 29L APCH AT TUS.
Narrative: EVERY TIME I HAVE GONE TO TUS AND THEY ARE LNDG ON RWY 29L; I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET DOWN IN A SAFE MANNER DUE TO THE MANDATORY ALT OF 5300 FT ON THE APCH FOR THE RNAV RWY 29L WHEN BEING VECTORED. KEPT TRYING TO GET LOWER ALT. WE ENDED UP GETTING CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH AND WERE STILL FIGHTING TO GET DOWN. ATC KEEPS US UP TOO HIGH (POSSIBLY BECAUSE OF MVA'S). ATC NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT WE NEED TO CROSS THE MANDATORY ALT AT 180 KTS WITHOUT USING SPOILERS OR GEAR. POSSIBLY ENRTE VECTORS TO AN AREA THAT ALLOWS LOWER ALTS SOONER (WIDER APCH AREA).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.