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Attributes | |
ACN | 799102 |
Time | |
Date | 200808 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 799102 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | other personnel |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Called for briefing; PA identified myself as aircraft X; asked if NOTAMS for destination airport ZZZ. Told there are none. They were having an event. Surprised no NOTAM -- even noted to briefer; no NOTAMS; asked 3 times; 'are you sure?' nearing airport called on unicom; no response. Instead of a straight in approach; decided to do an overhead crosswind approach to downwind. Called several times on unicom. No response. On downwind I lowered the gear. Got a call on unicom stating field was notamed out. Told them that FSS had told me 10 minutes earlier that field was not notamed out. Departed airspace. Flew to ZZZ1 and called FSS on cell phone. Got a different briefer. He stated field was notamed out??? Told him of discussion 30 minutes earlier where FSS said no NOTAMS. Only comment was; 'do I have to call twice to get the straight story?' this briefer gave me a contact number at ZZZ. I called and identified myself as the aircraft X pilot who called on the radio and didn't land. Telephone contact said that when I told him there was no NOTAM he called FSS. FSS had dates wrong on NOTAM. They fixed it right away. FSS briefer #1 failed to listen. I told them that an event was at ZZZ. He knew it but wasn't listening. The tower at ZZZ2 where I departed en route to ZZZ knew it because we discussed it on departure. Bottom line is that I had more information and was overly cautious. If I would have done a straight in approach not used any radios?? Kept calling I might have been dead right. Confidence in FSS has been eroded.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PILOT REPORTS ENTERING A CTAF ARPT AIRSPACE WHEN A SPECIAL EVENT NOTAMED THE ARPT CLOSED. FSS ERRED ON THE ARPT CLOSURE DATE.
Narrative: CALLED FOR BRIEFING; PA IDENTIFIED MYSELF AS ACFT X; ASKED IF NOTAMS FOR DEST ARPT ZZZ. TOLD THERE ARE NONE. THEY WERE HAVING AN EVENT. SURPRISED NO NOTAM -- EVEN NOTED TO BRIEFER; NO NOTAMS; ASKED 3 TIMES; 'ARE YOU SURE?' NEARING ARPT CALLED ON UNICOM; NO RESPONSE. INSTEAD OF A STRAIGHT IN APCH; DECIDED TO DO AN OVERHEAD CROSSWIND APCH TO DOWNWIND. CALLED SEVERAL TIMES ON UNICOM. NO RESPONSE. ON DOWNWIND I LOWERED THE GEAR. GOT A CALL ON UNICOM STATING FIELD WAS NOTAMED OUT. TOLD THEM THAT FSS HAD TOLD ME 10 MINUTES EARLIER THAT FIELD WAS NOT NOTAMED OUT. DEPARTED AIRSPACE. FLEW TO ZZZ1 AND CALLED FSS ON CELL PHONE. GOT A DIFFERENT BRIEFER. HE STATED FIELD WAS NOTAMED OUT??? TOLD HIM OF DISCUSSION 30 MINUTES EARLIER WHERE FSS SAID NO NOTAMS. ONLY COMMENT WAS; 'DO I HAVE TO CALL TWICE TO GET THE STRAIGHT STORY?' THIS BRIEFER GAVE ME A CONTACT NUMBER AT ZZZ. I CALLED AND IDENTIFIED MYSELF AS THE ACFT X PLT WHO CALLED ON THE RADIO AND DIDN'T LAND. TELEPHONE CONTACT SAID THAT WHEN I TOLD HIM THERE WAS NO NOTAM HE CALLED FSS. FSS HAD DATES WRONG ON NOTAM. THEY FIXED IT RIGHT AWAY. FSS BRIEFER #1 FAILED TO LISTEN. I TOLD THEM THAT AN EVENT WAS AT ZZZ. HE KNEW IT BUT WASN'T LISTENING. THE TWR AT ZZZ2 WHERE I DEPARTED ENRTE TO ZZZ KNEW IT BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED IT ON DEP. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I HAD MORE INFO AND WAS OVERLY CAUTIOUS. IF I WOULD HAVE DONE A STRAIGHT IN APCH NOT USED ANY RADIOS?? KEPT CALLING I MIGHT HAVE BEEN DEAD RIGHT. CONFIDENCE IN FSS HAS BEEN ERODED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.