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Attributes | |
ACN | 799498 |
Time | |
Date | 200808 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zfw.artcc |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 799498 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
13000 ft; ATC notified us of approaching unidented VFR traffic. TCAS did not show anything at first. Captain and first officer scanned and found aircraft climbing; then descending about +500 ft and changing headings about +20 degrees right then left. We thought the aircraft was a light single piper and may have been doing flight training or maneuvering; but questioned why at such a high altitude. TCAS then came alive; commanded an immediate climb. At this same time; captain turned on all lights; flashed landing lights; disconnected autoplt and made a climbing turn; keeping the piper in sight at all times and climbing about 200 ft; then returning to assigned altitude of 13000 ft. ATC was kept in the loop; and we informed them of what happened. I believe if we had not taken immediate action; this could have been close. The piper pilot never saw us; turned and climbed right into us. I believe we missed him about 300-400 ft. We could see it was red on white and I kept eyes on the aircraft as it passed in front and under us. First officer said TCAS read 300 ft at that time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SF34 SUFFERS NMAC WITH SMA AT 13000 FT MSL.
Narrative: 13000 FT; ATC NOTIFIED US OF APCHING UNIDENTED VFR TFC. TCAS DID NOT SHOW ANYTHING AT FIRST. CAPT AND FO SCANNED AND FOUND ACFT CLBING; THEN DSNDING ABOUT +500 FT AND CHANGING HDGS ABOUT +20 DEGS R THEN L. WE THOUGHT THE ACFT WAS A LIGHT SINGLE PIPER AND MAY HAVE BEEN DOING FLT TRAINING OR MANEUVERING; BUT QUESTIONED WHY AT SUCH A HIGH ALT. TCAS THEN CAME ALIVE; COMMANDED AN IMMEDIATE CLB. AT THIS SAME TIME; CAPT TURNED ON ALL LIGHTS; FLASHED LNDG LIGHTS; DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND MADE A CLBING TURN; KEEPING THE PIPER IN SIGHT AT ALL TIMES AND CLBING ABOUT 200 FT; THEN RETURNING TO ASSIGNED ALT OF 13000 FT. ATC WAS KEPT IN THE LOOP; AND WE INFORMED THEM OF WHAT HAPPENED. I BELIEVE IF WE HAD NOT TAKEN IMMEDIATE ACTION; THIS COULD HAVE BEEN CLOSE. THE PIPER PLT NEVER SAW US; TURNED AND CLBED RIGHT INTO US. I BELIEVE WE MISSED HIM ABOUT 300-400 FT. WE COULD SEE IT WAS RED ON WHITE AND I KEPT EYES ON THE ACFT AS IT PASSED IN FRONT AND UNDER US. FO SAID TCAS READ 300 FT AT THAT TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.