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Attributes | |
ACN | 80233 |
Time | |
Date | 198801 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ftz |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc tower : shv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 80233 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Clrd to cross ftz-VOR at 10000', from FL240. Trying to determine cause of airframe buffet during descent. (Had noted buffet in cruise around .82-.83 mach at FL370.) leveled off at FL200, believing at 10000' approximately 20 DME west of ftz. ATC asked altitude, all 3 of us read '10000', controller advised indicating FL200, recleared via vector to maintain 10000. Contributing elements: 1) night 2) near end of 7 plus hour flight, 11 plus hour duty day 3) problem distraction (analysis needed to involve pilot flying) 4) communications inside and outside.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT GROSS ATL DEVIATION UNDERSHOT DURING DESCENT.
Narrative: CLRD TO CROSS FTZ-VOR AT 10000', FROM FL240. TRYING TO DETERMINE CAUSE OF AIRFRAME BUFFET DURING DESCENT. (HAD NOTED BUFFET IN CRUISE AROUND .82-.83 MACH AT FL370.) LEVELED OFF AT FL200, BELIEVING AT 10000' APPROX 20 DME WEST OF FTZ. ATC ASKED ALT, ALL 3 OF US READ '10000', CTLR ADVISED INDICATING FL200, RECLEARED VIA VECTOR TO MAINTAIN 10000. CONTRIBUTING ELEMENTS: 1) NIGHT 2) NEAR END OF 7 PLUS HOUR FLT, 11 PLUS HOUR DUTY DAY 3) PROBLEM DISTR (ANALYSIS NEEDED TO INVOLVE PLT FLYING) 4) COMMUNICATIONS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.