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Attributes | |
ACN | 80519 |
Time | |
Date | 198801 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lhr |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : adq |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 154 flight time total : 26528 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 80519 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Departing lhr was again impressed with the chance for error with the way lhr tower issued clrncs onto the runway for takeoff. Instead of saying, 'your sequence is (or will be),' or 'you're following so-and-so,' tower actually issued several clrncs, ahead, to several aircraft, ie, 'you are cleared onto the runway after a departs (or B lands),' even if there are 2, 3 or 4 aircraft ahead, and not necessarily in line (some at runway end and other(south) at intxns). If a portion of such transmission(south) is lost and aircraft only hears, 'cleared onto the runway,' etc, or aircraft mistakes preceding type or airline, there is chance for error. The risk of error would increase in reduced visibility.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT COMPLAINT ABOUT PHRASEOLOGY TECHNIQUE USED BY ENGLISH CTLRS TO CLEAR ACFT ONTO RWY FOR TKOF.
Narrative: DEPARTING LHR WAS AGAIN IMPRESSED WITH THE CHANCE FOR ERROR WITH THE WAY LHR TWR ISSUED CLRNCS ONTO THE RWY FOR TKOF. INSTEAD OF SAYING, 'YOUR SEQUENCE IS (OR WILL BE),' OR 'YOU'RE FOLLOWING SO-AND-SO,' TWR ACTUALLY ISSUED SEVERAL CLRNCS, AHEAD, TO SEVERAL ACFT, IE, 'YOU ARE CLRED ONTO THE RWY AFTER A DEPARTS (OR B LANDS),' EVEN IF THERE ARE 2, 3 OR 4 ACFT AHEAD, AND NOT NECESSARILY IN LINE (SOME AT RWY END AND OTHER(S) AT INTXNS). IF A PORTION OF SUCH XMISSION(S) IS LOST AND ACFT ONLY HEARS, 'CLRED ONTO THE RWY,' ETC, OR ACFT MISTAKES PRECEDING TYPE OR AIRLINE, THERE IS CHANCE FOR ERROR. THE RISK OF ERROR WOULD INCREASE IN REDUCED VIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.