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Attributes | |
ACN | 808058 |
Time | |
Date | 200810 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mwh.airport |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | agl single value : 50 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mwh.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Sundowner 23 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mwh.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Sundowner 23 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 10 controller time certified in position1 : 18 |
ASRS Report | 808058 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 35 vertical : 35 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was instructing on another local position; when my trainee commented 'why do we have 2 aircraft landing on each other.' I turned to look and saw aircraft #1 about 20-30 ft from the threshold of runway 18 about 15 ft in the air; and just about ready to flare; aircraft #2 was approximately 35 ft behind; and 35-40 ft above; descending for the runway. About this time; I heard the instructor of the student controling the other local position instruct aircraft #2 to go around. Aircraft #2 was in such a position that they could not see aircraft #1 below them. During this time we had training going on at 3 position at the same time; with a supervisor performing the cabin attendant supervisor oversight. The tower where I work has split lcls; and due to a mandate from the atm; we have been working radar; and 2 local position in the cabin attendant; so that 3 controllers are sharing 2 d-brite scopes. Each controller is responsible for RA's; to the aircraft they are talking to; and when it gets busy it is very difficult to read the data blocks. It is also very distracting to have that much training going on at a time. This operation I feel is very unsafe; and even though we have brought up our concerns to management for the past 3-4 weeks; nothing is being done. I firmly believe there will be other close calls; that will be reported in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MWH CTLR DESCRIBED CONFLICT DURING SPLIT LCL OPS WHEN TWO ACFT MADE APCH'S TO THE SAME RWY; TRAINING ON BOTH LCL'S; GAR ISSUED TO SECOND ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS INSTRUCTING ON ANOTHER LCL POS; WHEN MY TRAINEE COMMENTED 'WHY DO WE HAVE 2 ACFT LNDG ON EACH OTHER.' I TURNED TO LOOK AND SAW ACFT #1 ABOUT 20-30 FT FROM THE THRESHOLD OF RWY 18 ABOUT 15 FT IN THE AIR; AND JUST ABOUT READY TO FLARE; ACFT #2 WAS APPROX 35 FT BEHIND; AND 35-40 FT ABOVE; DSNDING FOR THE RWY. ABOUT THIS TIME; I HEARD THE INSTRUCTOR OF THE STUDENT CTLING THE OTHER LCL POS INSTRUCT ACFT #2 TO GO AROUND. ACFT #2 WAS IN SUCH A POS THAT THEY COULD NOT SEE ACFT #1 BELOW THEM. DURING THIS TIME WE HAD TRAINING GOING ON AT 3 POS AT THE SAME TIME; WITH A SUPVR PERFORMING THE CAB SUPVR OVERSIGHT. THE TWR WHERE I WORK HAS SPLIT LCLS; AND DUE TO A MANDATE FROM THE ATM; WE HAVE BEEN WORKING RADAR; AND 2 LCL POS IN THE CAB; SO THAT 3 CTLRS ARE SHARING 2 D-BRITE SCOPES. EACH CTLR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RA'S; TO THE ACFT THEY ARE TALKING TO; AND WHEN IT GETS BUSY IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO READ THE DATA BLOCKS. IT IS ALSO VERY DISTRACTING TO HAVE THAT MUCH TRAINING GOING ON AT A TIME. THIS OP I FEEL IS VERY UNSAFE; AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BROUGHT UP OUR CONCERNS TO MGMNT FOR THE PAST 3-4 WKS; NOTHING IS BEING DONE. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THERE WILL BE OTHER CLOSE CALLS; THAT WILL BE RPTED IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.