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Attributes | |
ACN | 808253 |
Time | |
Date | 200810 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : oxi.vor |
State Reference | IN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Embraer Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : knox 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 808253 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATC issues instructions to cross 45E of oxi at FL250. As PF; I input the information into the FMS; and the captain crosschecked and agreed with my input. A few moments later I asked the captain if the controller had also given us the instruction to cross at 250 KTS; and he confirmed that he did not. Originally I had added a 5 mi buffer (crossing 50E of oxi at FL250) to slow to 250; but since that was incorrect; I re-input the information into the FMS. I made an error the second time of putting a crossing at oxi of FL250. I do not believe the captain (PNF) was aware that I had re-input the information into the FMS. ATC asked us what our original instruction was; and at that time we realized we weren't going to be able to make the assigned crossing. ATC issued an expedited descent to FL250. The captain who had originally crosschecked my information was not aware that I had re-input the information; and therefore was not able to catch my mistake. Improved communication between pilots during FMS input. I believe it was my complacency that caused me not to alert the captain to my changed input.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB145 FO FAILS TO MAKE CROSSING RESTRICTION DUE TO INCORRECT FMC ENTRY AND FAILURE TO HAVE NFP CHECK IT.
Narrative: ATC ISSUES INSTRUCTIONS TO CROSS 45E OF OXI AT FL250. AS PF; I INPUT THE INFO INTO THE FMS; AND THE CAPT XCHKED AND AGREED WITH MY INPUT. A FEW MOMENTS LATER I ASKED THE CAPT IF THE CTLR HAD ALSO GIVEN US THE INSTRUCTION TO CROSS AT 250 KTS; AND HE CONFIRMED THAT HE DID NOT. ORIGINALLY I HAD ADDED A 5 MI BUFFER (XING 50E OF OXI AT FL250) TO SLOW TO 250; BUT SINCE THAT WAS INCORRECT; I RE-INPUT THE INFO INTO THE FMS. I MADE AN ERROR THE SECOND TIME OF PUTTING A XING AT OXI OF FL250. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE CAPT (PNF) WAS AWARE THAT I HAD RE-INPUT THE INFO INTO THE FMS. ATC ASKED US WHAT OUR ORIGINAL INSTRUCTION WAS; AND AT THAT TIME WE REALIZED WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE ASSIGNED XING. ATC ISSUED AN EXPEDITED DSCNT TO FL250. THE CAPT WHO HAD ORIGINALLY XCHKED MY INFO WAS NOT AWARE THAT I HAD RE-INPUT THE INFO; AND THEREFORE WAS NOT ABLE TO CATCH MY MISTAKE. IMPROVED COM BTWN PLTS DURING FMS INPUT. I BELIEVE IT WAS MY COMPLACENCY THAT CAUSED ME NOT TO ALERT THE CAPT TO MY CHANGED INPUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.