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Attributes | |
ACN | 808346 |
Time | |
Date | 200810 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 808346 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : nose gear safe light other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Upon final approach into ZZZ when the gear was selected down and the main gear was indicating down and green; the nose gear gave an unsafe red light and was not indicating down. We went missed and entered a hold to run the checklists; contact company and maintenance control. On the missed; I heard the captain say 'roll the trucks' and thought she wanted me to declare an emergency. As I was declaring an emergency; she clarified that all she wanted was the tower to know they may have to roll the trucks if the issue wasn't resolved. I informed the tower and approach of our new intentions. After running the checklists which had us contact maintenance control; we then cycled the gear as instructed by maintenance control. We then had all 3 gear down and locked with a normal landing. Supplemental information from acn 808929: fuel when we left was 4400 pounds. Normally in doing this flight in the past it is 5400 pounds. Due to unforecasted WX down to minimums and a malfunction upon landing; we were at around 1400 pounds. If the WX would have continued going down or if it took longer with a vip who was running late; we would have been running very short on fuel in trying to get to an alternate. The previous day in the maintenance logbook and days prior; there were write-ups that the nose gear/nosewheel steering was making noise and vibrating and the day before they changed the front tires thinking that was the problem. Approach was told we were in our reserve fuel and if we could be put up the list a little farther to get in sooner. They then let us be #2. This was said because being #6 and if the WX would have gone down more plus flying to an alternate with the gear down again would have put us pretty low on the fuel and it would have been really tight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DHC8 ABANDONS APCH WHEN NOSE GEAR FAILS TO INDICATE DOWN AND LOCKED. PREVIOUS UNASSOCIATED DELAYS COMBINED WITH TROUBLE- SHOOTING THE NOSE GEAR RESULT IN ULTIMATE LNDG WITH MINIMUM FUEL.
Narrative: UPON FINAL APCH INTO ZZZ WHEN THE GEAR WAS SELECTED DOWN AND THE MAIN GEAR WAS INDICATING DOWN AND GREEN; THE NOSE GEAR GAVE AN UNSAFE RED LIGHT AND WAS NOT INDICATING DOWN. WE WENT MISSED AND ENTERED A HOLD TO RUN THE CHKLISTS; CONTACT COMPANY AND MAINT CTL. ON THE MISSED; I HEARD THE CAPT SAY 'ROLL THE TRUCKS' AND THOUGHT SHE WANTED ME TO DECLARE AN EMER. AS I WAS DECLARING AN EMER; SHE CLARIFIED THAT ALL SHE WANTED WAS THE TWR TO KNOW THEY MAY HAVE TO ROLL THE TRUCKS IF THE ISSUE WASN'T RESOLVED. I INFORMED THE TWR AND APCH OF OUR NEW INTENTIONS. AFTER RUNNING THE CHKLISTS WHICH HAD US CONTACT MAINT CTL; WE THEN CYCLED THE GEAR AS INSTRUCTED BY MAINT CTL. WE THEN HAD ALL 3 GEAR DOWN AND LOCKED WITH A NORMAL LNDG. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 808929: FUEL WHEN WE LEFT WAS 4400 LBS. NORMALLY IN DOING THIS FLT IN THE PAST IT IS 5400 LBS. DUE TO UNFORECASTED WX DOWN TO MINIMUMS AND A MALFUNCTION UPON LNDG; WE WERE AT AROUND 1400 LBS. IF THE WX WOULD HAVE CONTINUED GOING DOWN OR IF IT TOOK LONGER WITH A VIP WHO WAS RUNNING LATE; WE WOULD HAVE BEEN RUNNING VERY SHORT ON FUEL IN TRYING TO GET TO AN ALTERNATE. THE PREVIOUS DAY IN THE MAINT LOGBOOK AND DAYS PRIOR; THERE WERE WRITE-UPS THAT THE NOSE GEAR/NOSEWHEEL STEERING WAS MAKING NOISE AND VIBRATING AND THE DAY BEFORE THEY CHANGED THE FRONT TIRES THINKING THAT WAS THE PROB. APCH WAS TOLD WE WERE IN OUR RESERVE FUEL AND IF WE COULD BE PUT UP THE LIST A LITTLE FARTHER TO GET IN SOONER. THEY THEN LET US BE #2. THIS WAS SAID BECAUSE BEING #6 AND IF THE WX WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN MORE PLUS FLYING TO AN ALTERNATE WITH THE GEAR DOWN AGAIN WOULD HAVE PUT US PRETTY LOW ON THE FUEL AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY TIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.