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Attributes | |
ACN | 808732 |
Time | |
Date | 200810 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 2200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 808732 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Was cleared for the visual approach for runway 23L on downwind. I turned toward the FAF as per company procedures; when it looked like I was going to have a 90 degree intercept I turned the aircraft to intercept the localizer just inside the FAF. Thinking that I was going to be high when I finally intercepted the GS; I used the vertical speed mode to start descending to 2200 ft at 200 FPM. When the GS indicator came in view; it showed the aircraft approximately 1.5 dots below the GS. First officer stated the fact that we were low on the GS; I then disconnected the autoplt and leveled off until we reached the GS. The aircraft was configured and on GS by 1000 ft AGL and we landed without incident. I should have flown another mi or two outside the FAF and given myself more room to maneuver for the localizer and GS intercept.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR PILOT FLYING A VISUAL APCH WAS LOW ON GS BECAUSE OF A DESCENT DURING A TURN TO FINAL INSIDE THE FAF. A STABILIZED APCH WAS COMPLETED.
Narrative: WAS CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH FOR RWY 23L ON DOWNWIND. I TURNED TOWARD THE FAF AS PER COMPANY PROCS; WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS GOING TO HAVE A 90 DEG INTERCEPT I TURNED THE ACFT TO INTERCEPT THE LOC JUST INSIDE THE FAF. THINKING THAT I WAS GOING TO BE HIGH WHEN I FINALLY INTERCEPTED THE GS; I USED THE VERT SPD MODE TO START DSNDING TO 2200 FT AT 200 FPM. WHEN THE GS INDICATOR CAME IN VIEW; IT SHOWED THE ACFT APPROX 1.5 DOTS BELOW THE GS. FO STATED THE FACT THAT WE WERE LOW ON THE GS; I THEN DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND LEVELED OFF UNTIL WE REACHED THE GS. THE ACFT WAS CONFIGURED AND ON GS BY 1000 FT AGL AND WE LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. I SHOULD HAVE FLOWN ANOTHER MI OR TWO OUTSIDE THE FAF AND GIVEN MYSELF MORE ROOM TO MANEUVER FOR THE LOC AND GS INTERCEPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.