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Attributes | |
ACN | 809625 |
Time | |
Date | 200810 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 200 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Windshear |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower tower : sdf.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : go around landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 145 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 809625 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 220 |
ASRS Report | 809626 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : overrode automation flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : executed go around |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Normal radar vectoring to a 15 mi final for ILS/visual runway xx. During the vectoring in and out of clouds with continuous light to moderate turbulence. Surface winds were 260 degrees at 25 KTS gusting to 45 KTS reported. At intersection; xfer to tower and cleared to land with windshear advisory and current wind similar to the above. First officer was hand flying with autothrottles engaged. Turbulence remained the same down to about 100-200 ft. Airspeed was within limits around the target speed of 162 KTS. At about 200 ft a massive wind increase hit us and the airspeed jumped over target by about 30-35 KTS. I said go around and the first officer immediately initiated the go around. As power reached toga; the back side of the airspeed increase hit us and airspeed dropped below target. Because of our light weight (538.0) we flew right through the decrease and began climbing. The tower gave us a left turn to crosswind and during the climb; clean-up began. The speed window on the MCP was opened to 250 KTS; but somewhere in the missed approach confusion a vertical speed mode was not selected and the engines remained in thrust reference. The flaps were retracted on schedule but then approaching the assigned altitude of 4000 ft the airspeed exceeded 250 KTS. A couple of frantic moments of 'what is it doing now?' and a vertical mode was selected and the speed arrested and brought back to 250 KTS and then eventually to the approach control assigned speed of 210 KTS. The second approach in the similar conditions resulted in a normal landing. The overspd could have been avoided if the FMA's were more closely monitored and if the PF would have disconnected automation (autothrottles) when automation wasn't giving what was necessary! Supplemental information from acn 809626: once on downwind and clean at 4000 ft; the aircraft accelerated; I'm not sure of the thrust mode. I called 'you've got to slow down.' the first officer was hand flying with autothrust engaged and tried to pull thrust back but throttles kept advancing. Maximum indicated airspeed 283 KIAS. The controller issued climb 5000 ft; I think to give us a chance to bleed energy. With the speed under control; a normal second approach and landing was accomplished. With a good tailwind we had about 330 KT ground speed on downwind! Factors were: performing a maneuver we don't get to do much. First officer's focus on altitude control/confign changes while not aware of thrust mode.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B747-400 FO EXECUTES A GAR IN A WINDSHEAR AT 200 FT. WITH THE AUTOTHROTTLES ENGAGED THE ACFT ACHIEVED 280 KTS WHILE LEVELING AT 4000 FT.
Narrative: NORMAL RADAR VECTORING TO A 15 MI FINAL FOR ILS/VISUAL RWY XX. DURING THE VECTORING IN AND OUT OF CLOUDS WITH CONTINUOUS LIGHT TO MODERATE TURB. SURFACE WINDS WERE 260 DEGS AT 25 KTS GUSTING TO 45 KTS RPTED. AT INTXN; XFER TO TWR AND CLRED TO LAND WITH WINDSHEAR ADVISORY AND CURRENT WIND SIMILAR TO THE ABOVE. FO WAS HAND FLYING WITH AUTOTHROTTLES ENGAGED. TURB REMAINED THE SAME DOWN TO ABOUT 100-200 FT. AIRSPD WAS WITHIN LIMITS AROUND THE TARGET SPD OF 162 KTS. AT ABOUT 200 FT A MASSIVE WIND INCREASE HIT US AND THE AIRSPD JUMPED OVER TARGET BY ABOUT 30-35 KTS. I SAID GO AROUND AND THE FO IMMEDIATELY INITIATED THE GAR. AS PWR REACHED TOGA; THE BACK SIDE OF THE AIRSPD INCREASE HIT US AND AIRSPD DROPPED BELOW TARGET. BECAUSE OF OUR LIGHT WT (538.0) WE FLEW RIGHT THROUGH THE DECREASE AND BEGAN CLBING. THE TWR GAVE US A L TURN TO XWIND AND DURING THE CLB; CLEAN-UP BEGAN. THE SPD WINDOW ON THE MCP WAS OPENED TO 250 KTS; BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE MISSED APCH CONFUSION A VERT SPD MODE WAS NOT SELECTED AND THE ENGS REMAINED IN THRUST REF. THE FLAPS WERE RETRACTED ON SCHEDULE BUT THEN APCHING THE ASSIGNED ALT OF 4000 FT THE AIRSPD EXCEEDED 250 KTS. A COUPLE OF FRANTIC MOMENTS OF 'WHAT IS IT DOING NOW?' AND A VERT MODE WAS SELECTED AND THE SPD ARRESTED AND BROUGHT BACK TO 250 KTS AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO THE APCH CTL ASSIGNED SPD OF 210 KTS. THE SECOND APCH IN THE SIMILAR CONDITIONS RESULTED IN A NORMAL LNDG. THE OVERSPD COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE FMA'S WERE MORE CLOSELY MONITORED AND IF THE PF WOULD HAVE DISCONNECTED AUTOMATION (AUTOTHROTTLES) WHEN AUTOMATION WASN'T GIVING WHAT WAS NECESSARY! SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 809626: ONCE ON DOWNWIND AND CLEAN AT 4000 FT; THE ACFT ACCELERATED; I'M NOT SURE OF THE THRUST MODE. I CALLED 'YOU'VE GOT TO SLOW DOWN.' THE FO WAS HAND FLYING WITH AUTOTHRUST ENGAGED AND TRIED TO PULL THRUST BACK BUT THROTTLES KEPT ADVANCING. MAX INDICATED AIRSPD 283 KIAS. THE CTLR ISSUED CLB 5000 FT; I THINK TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO BLEED ENERGY. WITH THE SPD UNDER CTL; A NORMAL SECOND APCH AND LNDG WAS ACCOMPLISHED. WITH A GOOD TAILWIND WE HAD ABOUT 330 KT GND SPD ON DOWNWIND! FACTORS WERE: PERFORMING A MANEUVER WE DON'T GET TO DO MUCH. FO'S FOCUS ON ALT CTL/CONFIGN CHANGES WHILE NOT AWARE OF THRUST MODE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.