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Attributes | |
ACN | 810158 |
Time | |
Date | 200810 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzz.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 140 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 810158 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 809842 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical inflight encounter : weather |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : eicas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
During climb through about 10000 ft; the icing system was activated automatically. 4 open lights were illuminated on overhead panel. However a short time later the stabilizer anti-ice fail and wing anti-ice fail caution came on. Then anti-ice warning and low bleed temperature caution came on still during climb. We leveled at our cleared altitude of 16000 ft; in between layers for a short time. During this time we were trying to coordinate with ATC for a higher altitude. We knew the tops were around 23000 ft; having just flown into ZZZ1 from ZZZ2. First officer was consulting the aom to find a solution to our icing problem. We flew back into IMC conditions just prior to being given a clearance to climb to FL260. Cycling the icing mode selector rectified the anti-ice system low bleed problem; however; as we passed through FL180; the altimeter was not set to 29.92. ATC asked what our assigned altitude was and what our current altitude was. We set standard setting and descended back to FL260. Nothing further said or done.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB140'S STAB AND WING ANTI-ICE FAIL AND LOW BLEED CAUTIONS ILLUMINATED IN ICING DURING CLIMB. CYCLING THE ICING MODE SELECTOR RESTORED NORMAL ANTI-ICE FUNCTIONS.
Narrative: DURING CLB THROUGH ABOUT 10000 FT; THE ICING SYS WAS ACTIVATED AUTOMATICALLY. 4 OPEN LIGHTS WERE ILLUMINATED ON OVERHEAD PANEL. HOWEVER A SHORT TIME LATER THE STABILIZER ANTI-ICE FAIL AND WING ANTI-ICE FAIL CAUTION CAME ON. THEN ANTI-ICE WARNING AND LOW BLEED TEMP CAUTION CAME ON STILL DURING CLB. WE LEVELED AT OUR CLRED ALT OF 16000 FT; IN BTWN LAYERS FOR A SHORT TIME. DURING THIS TIME WE WERE TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH ATC FOR A HIGHER ALT. WE KNEW THE TOPS WERE AROUND 23000 FT; HAVING JUST FLOWN INTO ZZZ1 FROM ZZZ2. FO WAS CONSULTING THE AOM TO FIND A SOLUTION TO OUR ICING PROB. WE FLEW BACK INTO IMC CONDITIONS JUST PRIOR TO BEING GIVEN A CLRNC TO CLB TO FL260. CYCLING THE ICING MODE SELECTOR RECTIFIED THE ANTI-ICE SYS LOW BLEED PROB; HOWEVER; AS WE PASSED THROUGH FL180; THE ALTIMETER WAS NOT SET TO 29.92. ATC ASKED WHAT OUR ASSIGNED ALT WAS AND WHAT OUR CURRENT ALT WAS. WE SET STANDARD SETTING AND DSNDED BACK TO FL260. NOTHING FURTHER SAID OR DONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.