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Attributes | |
ACN | 811227 |
Time | |
Date | 200811 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 74 flight time total : 680 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 811227 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I was flying above the cloud deck at 9000 ft. The cloud deck continued to rise and while in the clouds I started to pick up some ice (there was no airmet zulu). I asked if I could go lower due to the icing situation and was cleared to 7000 ft MSL. While in descent I picked up significant ice on my wings and propeller with significant loss of power. I asked to go further in the descent and was told to hold for a couple of mins. I had a difficult time trying to hold the altitude and lost additional altitude due to the icing condition. I was trying to keep the aircraft under control at this time and communication was not high on the priority list. Finally I was out of the clouds and in higher temperatures and I was cleared for 3000 ft MSL. I was then handed off to approach and he said that I violated the altitude and that I would be issued a deviation. I said nothing; I was a little shaken up by the experience. In hindsight I did not know that I lost the extra 500 ft while in the clouds while picking up ice. My main goal was to control the aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 PILOT AT 9000 FEET ON IFR FLIGHT PLAN ENCOUNTERS ICING AND REQUESTS LOWER. PILOT IS STEPPED DOWN BUT CANNOT MAINTAIN ALTITUDE AND DOES NOT ANNOUNCE HIS PREDICAMENT. A PILOT DEVIATION IS RECORDED.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING ABOVE THE CLOUD DECK AT 9000 FT. THE CLOUD DECK CONTINUED TO RISE AND WHILE IN THE CLOUDS I STARTED TO PICK UP SOME ICE (THERE WAS NO AIRMET ZULU). I ASKED IF I COULD GO LOWER DUE TO THE ICING SITUATION AND WAS CLRED TO 7000 FT MSL. WHILE IN DSCNT I PICKED UP SIGNIFICANT ICE ON MY WINGS AND PROP WITH SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF PWR. I ASKED TO GO FURTHER IN THE DSCNT AND WAS TOLD TO HOLD FOR A COUPLE OF MINS. I HAD A DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO HOLD THE ALT AND LOST ADDITIONAL ALT DUE TO THE ICING CONDITION. I WAS TRYING TO KEEP THE ACFT UNDER CTL AT THIS TIME AND COM WAS NOT HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST. FINALLY I WAS OUT OF THE CLOUDS AND IN HIGHER TEMPS AND I WAS CLRED FOR 3000 FT MSL. I WAS THEN HANDED OFF TO APCH AND HE SAID THAT I VIOLATED THE ALT AND THAT I WOULD BE ISSUED A DEV. I SAID NOTHING; I WAS A LITTLE SHAKEN UP BY THE EXPERIENCE. IN HINDSIGHT I DID NOT KNOW THAT I LOST THE EXTRA 500 FT WHILE IN THE CLOUDS WHILE PICKING UP ICE. MY MAIN GOAL WAS TO CTL THE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.