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Attributes | |
ACN | 813200 |
Time | |
Date | 200811 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzzz.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Fog Ice Snow |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : zzzz |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 813200 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 813201 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Environmental Factor Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
During preflight the captain requested a second de-icing due to the fact that the de-icing crew did not leave the type of fluid nor the holdover start time with the operating crew. Heavy snow and sleet developed after the first de-icing. Both the first officer and myself verified and confirmed the RNAV SID in the FMC during cockpit preflight duties. During departure from ZZZZ on the RNAV SID at approximately 3000 ft the autoplt suddenly turned the aircraft slightly to the right of course momentarily off the SID. The first officer was the PF. The first officer intervened by clicking off the autoplt and flew the aircraft back onto the SID. The aircraft had been parked in ZZZZ all weekend and sleet; ice and snow had developed on the surfaces. The sudden roll experienced was that similar to an approach roll oscillation when ice develops on the control surfaces during an approach. We asked ATC after the event had we deviated from course and he answered no. There were no further encounters with the autoplt for the rest of the flight.supplemental information from acn 813201: the flight control check responded as it should have and the airplane behaved normally on the takeoff roll and initial climb. At 1000 ft the autoplt was selected on in accordance with departure procedures. When the aircraft was approaching its first turn to the left; it departed the course and started an uncommanded right turn.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated that ice accumulation on flight control surfaces during approach is a known issue with this aircraft. His company has developed a procedure that tells the crew to disconnect the autoplt and hand fly the approach. In this event; the reporter is speculating that ice was the issue and so the approach procedures were applied. He doesn't know what caused the uncommanded roll but because it felt similar to the approach roll he is speculating that was caused by icing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A300 CREW RPTS AN UNCOMMANDED R ROLL AFTER TKOF POSSIBLY DUE TO CONTAMINATED SURFACES. THE ACFT HAD BEEN DE-ICED PRIOR TO TKOF BUT WAS PREVIOUSLY PARKED IN ICE AND SNOW AN ENTIRE WEEKEND.
Narrative: DURING PREFLT THE CAPT REQUESTED A SECOND DE-ICING DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE DE-ICING CREW DID NOT LEAVE THE TYPE OF FLUID NOR THE HOLDOVER START TIME WITH THE OPERATING CREW. HEAVY SNOW AND SLEET DEVELOPED AFTER THE FIRST DE-ICING. BOTH THE FO AND MYSELF VERIFIED AND CONFIRMED THE RNAV SID IN THE FMC DURING COCKPIT PREFLT DUTIES. DURING DEP FROM ZZZZ ON THE RNAV SID AT APPROX 3000 FT THE AUTOPLT SUDDENLY TURNED THE ACFT SLIGHTLY TO THE R OF COURSE MOMENTARILY OFF THE SID. THE FO WAS THE PF. THE FO INTERVENED BY CLICKING OFF THE AUTOPLT AND FLEW THE ACFT BACK ONTO THE SID. THE ACFT HAD BEEN PARKED IN ZZZZ ALL WEEKEND AND SLEET; ICE AND SNOW HAD DEVELOPED ON THE SURFACES. THE SUDDEN ROLL EXPERIENCED WAS THAT SIMILAR TO AN APCH ROLL OSCILLATION WHEN ICE DEVELOPS ON THE CTL SURFACES DURING AN APCH. WE ASKED ATC AFTER THE EVENT HAD WE DEVIATED FROM COURSE AND HE ANSWERED NO. THERE WERE NO FURTHER ENCOUNTERS WITH THE AUTOPLT FOR THE REST OF THE FLT.SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 813201: THE FLT CTL CHECK RESPONDED AS IT SHOULD HAVE AND THE AIRPLANE BEHAVED NORMALLY ON THE TAKEOFF ROLL AND INITIAL CLIMB. AT 1000 FT THE AUTOPLT WAS SELECTED ON IN ACCORDANCE WITH DEP PROCS. WHEN THE ACFT WAS APCHING ITS FIRST TURN TO THE L; IT DEPARTED THE COURSE AND STARTED AN UNCOMMANDED R TURN.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THAT ICE ACCUMULATION ON FLT CTL SURFACES DURING APCH IS A KNOWN ISSUE WITH THIS ACFT. HIS COMPANY HAS DEVELOPED A PROC THAT TELLS THE CREW TO DISCONNECT THE AUTOPLT AND HAND FLY THE APCH. IN THIS EVENT; THE RPTR IS SPECULATING THAT ICE WAS THE ISSUE AND SO THE APCH PROCEDURES WERE APPLIED. HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED THE UNCOMMANDED ROLL BUT BECAUSE IT FELT SIMILAR TO THE APCH ROLL HE IS SPECULATING THAT WAS CAUSED BY ICING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.