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Attributes | |
ACN | 813340 |
Time | |
Date | 200811 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : l65.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Other |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 800 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 813340 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : l65.airport |
Narrative:
There is an ongoing frequency separation and incorrect frequency use issue at perris; ca (L65). The first incident was on a flight from ZZZ to L65. Talking to march approach; I listened to the drop zone frequency 122.775 as suggested in the AFD. I heard the 'jumpers away' when we were maybe 5 mi from the airport. I switched to the CTAF frequency to make the appropriate calls. When we made the 'left downwind to base; runway 33' call; someone on the frequency told us that we were on the 'wrong frequency' that the perris traffic uses 122.775. I switched to 122.775 just in time to hear the jump plane call that they were 'on a high base for runway 33.' I elected to get out of the pattern. We landed safely after completing the pattern again. 5 days later; I was transitioning the airspace near lake elsinore's jump zone and monitoring 122.9; the frequency that I believe the jump plane there uses. I overheard a pilot announcing arrival to perris and the elsinore jump plane pilot telling the perris traffic that the frequency is 'wrong on the chart' and directed them to 122.775. As you can see; this is an accident waiting to happen. I've heard similar stories from other pilots who have flown to perris. The perris users should be using the CTAF frequency for their traffic calls.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PARACHUTE JUMP PLANE PILOT REPORTS PROBLEMS WITH CTAF AND PARACHUTE ACTIVITIES FREQUENCIES AT L65.
Narrative: THERE IS AN ONGOING FREQ SEPARATION AND INCORRECT FREQ USE ISSUE AT PERRIS; CA (L65). THE FIRST INCIDENT WAS ON A FLT FROM ZZZ TO L65. TALKING TO MARCH APCH; I LISTENED TO THE DROP ZONE FREQ 122.775 AS SUGGESTED IN THE AFD. I HEARD THE 'JUMPERS AWAY' WHEN WE WERE MAYBE 5 MI FROM THE ARPT. I SWITCHED TO THE CTAF FREQ TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE CALLS. WHEN WE MADE THE 'L DOWNWIND TO BASE; RWY 33' CALL; SOMEONE ON THE FREQ TOLD US THAT WE WERE ON THE 'WRONG FREQ' THAT THE PERRIS TFC USES 122.775. I SWITCHED TO 122.775 JUST IN TIME TO HEAR THE JUMP PLANE CALL THAT THEY WERE 'ON A HIGH BASE FOR RWY 33.' I ELECTED TO GET OUT OF THE PATTERN. WE LANDED SAFELY AFTER COMPLETING THE PATTERN AGAIN. 5 DAYS LATER; I WAS TRANSITIONING THE AIRSPACE NEAR LAKE ELSINORE'S JUMP ZONE AND MONITORING 122.9; THE FREQ THAT I BELIEVE THE JUMP PLANE THERE USES. I OVERHEARD A PLT ANNOUNCING ARR TO PERRIS AND THE ELSINORE JUMP PLANE PLT TELLING THE PERRIS TFC THAT THE FREQ IS 'WRONG ON THE CHART' AND DIRECTED THEM TO 122.775. AS YOU CAN SEE; THIS IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN. I'VE HEARD SIMILAR STORIES FROM OTHER PLTS WHO HAVE FLOWN TO PERRIS. THE PERRIS USERS SHOULD BE USING THE CTAF FREQ FOR THEIR TFC CALLS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.