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Attributes | |
ACN | 813988 |
Time | |
Date | 200812 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : atl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 813988 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Navigational Facility ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
With autoplt engaged for the approach; we were cleared for the ILS prm runway 27L via vector (240 degrees) to intercept and maintain 7000 ft until yabba. Localizer capture was normal. GS captured on schedule at yabba at 7000 ft and appeared normal. We were assigned 210 KTS. The speed started to increase as I expected; with our new flap limitation not allowing flap extension at that speed. I added spoilers to manage speed but it smoothly and quickly increased with a pitch down and excessive descent rate (greater than 3000 FPM). The deviation happened approaching the dezee approach fix. I disconnected the autoplt and leveled at 5000 ft in visual conditions; advised atl tower of the erratic GS. They asked that we maintain 5000 ft; then subsequently cleared us to 4000 ft until anvil and reissued the approach clearance. The GS appeared stable and accurate by this time and we flew the approach and landed; we were in visual conditions by around a 5 NM final. Atl tower advised that an aircraft; which I think they said was a B757; had 'back-taxied on runway 27L' and had possibly interfered with the GS. Another aircraft on approach also advised tower of GS deviations at the same time. Later we saw where what appeared to be departing aircraft being taxied across runway 27L on the approach side of the runway 27L GS antenna to get to runway 28. We can't be sure it was a taxiing aircraft that caused the problem; but I would like to see tower have them cross downfield of the GS antenna anyway to be on the safe side; even when conditions are visual for most of the final approach area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIR CARRIER FLIGHT CREW REPORTS GLIDE SLOPE INSTABILITY DURING ILS PRM RUNWAY 27L AT ATL. TOWER REPORTED BACK TAXIING B757 MAY HAVE BEEN THE CAUSE.
Narrative: WITH AUTOPLT ENGAGED FOR THE APCH; WE WERE CLRED FOR THE ILS PRM RWY 27L VIA VECTOR (240 DEGS) TO INTERCEPT AND MAINTAIN 7000 FT UNTIL YABBA. LOC CAPTURE WAS NORMAL. GS CAPTURED ON SCHEDULE AT YABBA AT 7000 FT AND APPEARED NORMAL. WE WERE ASSIGNED 210 KTS. THE SPD STARTED TO INCREASE AS I EXPECTED; WITH OUR NEW FLAP LIMITATION NOT ALLOWING FLAP EXTENSION AT THAT SPD. I ADDED SPOILERS TO MANAGE SPD BUT IT SMOOTHLY AND QUICKLY INCREASED WITH A PITCH DOWN AND EXCESSIVE DSCNT RATE (GREATER THAN 3000 FPM). THE DEV HAPPENED APCHING THE DEZEE APCH FIX. I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND LEVELED AT 5000 FT IN VISUAL CONDITIONS; ADVISED ATL TWR OF THE ERRATIC GS. THEY ASKED THAT WE MAINTAIN 5000 FT; THEN SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED US TO 4000 FT UNTIL ANVIL AND REISSUED THE APCH CLRNC. THE GS APPEARED STABLE AND ACCURATE BY THIS TIME AND WE FLEW THE APCH AND LANDED; WE WERE IN VISUAL CONDITIONS BY AROUND A 5 NM FINAL. ATL TWR ADVISED THAT AN ACFT; WHICH I THINK THEY SAID WAS A B757; HAD 'BACK-TAXIED ON RWY 27L' AND HAD POSSIBLY INTERFERED WITH THE GS. ANOTHER ACFT ON APCH ALSO ADVISED TWR OF GS DEVS AT THE SAME TIME. LATER WE SAW WHERE WHAT APPEARED TO BE DEPARTING ACFT BEING TAXIED ACROSS RWY 27L ON THE APCH SIDE OF THE RWY 27L GS ANTENNA TO GET TO RWY 28. WE CAN'T BE SURE IT WAS A TAXIING ACFT THAT CAUSED THE PROB; BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TWR HAVE THEM CROSS DOWNFIELD OF THE GS ANTENNA ANYWAY TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE; EVEN WHEN CONDITIONS ARE VISUAL FOR MOST OF THE FINAL APCH AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.