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Attributes | |
ACN | 815364 |
Time | |
Date | 200809 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 6140 |
ASRS Report | 815364 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Situations | |
Airport | lighting : dtw.airport |
Narrative:
There is a very unorthodox taxiway lighting system arrangement at dtw. There is no distinct separation with the taxiway lighting system from where the runway meets the taxiway and the opposite is true. At several locations; blue taxiway lights are intertwined with white runway lights. Because the runway lights are directional and cannot be viewed at the 90 degree angle; at certain intxns the runway can be easily mistaken as txwys. Dtw placement of blue taxiway lights directly on the runway environment is a serious potential hazard and needs to be investigated as soon as possible. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter noted that when he exited runway 22R at taxiway A4 he noted blue taxiway lights on the runway's edge and thought at the time it was odd. Sometime later on taxiway Y southbound he noted blue taxi lights at A8 mixing with runway 4R edge lights and then exiting again at Y9. The reporter found that placing blue taxiway light in the runway environment caused confusion and that in a very low visibility taxi environment this configuration may have unintended consequences. The reporter believes a pilot having landed on a runway and then encountering taxiway lights without being able to see the entire environment could come to expect that a transition to a taxiway had occurred when in fact the aircraft was still on the runway. The additional experience the pilot described was the effect of seeing a runway as a taxiway. This could occur because the runway lights cannot be seen beyond 90 degrees and a runway will appear as a taxiway when the taxiway lights can be seen but not the runway lights as when an aircraft is taxiing in the opposite direction from the active runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIR CARRIER PILOT DESCRIBES HIS CONFUSION AT SEEING TAXIWAY LIGHTS ON DTW RUNWAYS 4R/22L AND 4L/22.
Narrative: THERE IS A VERY UNORTHODOX TXWY LIGHTING SYSTEM ARRANGEMENT AT DTW. THERE IS NO DISTINCT SEPARATION WITH THE TXWY LIGHTING SYSTEM FROM WHERE THE RWY MEETS THE TXWY AND THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS; BLUE TXWY LIGHTS ARE INTERTWINED WITH WHITE RWY LIGHTS. BECAUSE THE RWY LIGHTS ARE DIRECTIONAL AND CANNOT BE VIEWED AT THE 90 DEG ANGLE; AT CERTAIN INTXNS THE RWY CAN BE EASILY MISTAKEN AS TXWYS. DTW PLACEMENT OF BLUE TXWY LIGHTS DIRECTLY ON THE RWY ENVIRONMENT IS A SERIOUS POTENTIAL HAZARD AND NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED ASAP. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE REPORTER NOTED THAT WHEN HE EXITED RUNWAY 22R AT TAXIWAY A4 HE NOTED BLUE TAXIWAY LIGHTS ON THE RUNWAY'S EDGE AND THOUGHT AT THE TIME IT WAS ODD. SOMETIME LATER ON TAXIWAY Y SOUTHBOUND HE NOTED BLUE TAXI LIGHTS AT A8 MIXING WITH RUNWAY 4R EDGE LIGHTS AND THEN EXITING AGAIN AT Y9. THE REPORTER FOUND THAT PLACING BLUE TAXIWAY LIGHT IN THE RUNWAY ENVIRONMENT CAUSED CONFUSION AND THAT IN A VERY LOW VISIBILITY TAXI ENVIRONMENT THIS CONFIGURATION MAY HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THE REPORTER BELIEVES A PILOT HAVING LANDED ON A RUNWAY AND THEN ENCOUNTERING TAXIWAY LIGHTS WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE THE ENTIRE ENVIRONMENT COULD COME TO EXPECT THAT A TRANSITION TO A TAXIWAY HAD OCCURRED WHEN IN FACT THE AIRCRAFT WAS STILL ON THE RUNWAY. THE ADDITIONAL EXPERIENCE THE PILOT DESCRIBED WAS THE EFFECT OF SEEING A RUNWAY AS A TAXIWAY. THIS COULD OCCUR BECAUSE THE RUNWAY LIGHTS CANNOT BE SEEN BEYOND 90 DEGS AND A RUNWAY WILL APPEAR AS A TAXIWAY WHEN THE TAXIWAY LIGHTS CAN BE SEEN BUT NOT THE RUNWAY LIGHTS AS WHEN AN AIRCRAFT IS TAXIING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION FROM THE ACTIVE RUNWAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.