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A320 flight crew; reporting for early morning departure; discover aircraft has been deiced without configuring the aircraft in accordance with company SOP.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 815405 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200811 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | controller : flight data oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 8000 |
| ASRS Report | 815405 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10300 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 815407 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
When boarding the overnight aircraft 50 minutes before departure; it was obvious that it had been recently deiced. The deice supervisor was called to the gate to discuss. He said that it was determined that all overnight airplanes were to be deiced due to frost. He said our plane was deiced over 1 hour earlier but no one had configured the cockpit for deicing in violation of deicing procedures. He said that waiting for the crews to arrive and properly configure the aircraft would result in delayed departures. He said that the deice crew only used 'minimal fluid.' this appears to be an excuse for not complying with the established procedure. Any deicing should not occur until the aircraft is configured by the crew or other trained personnel.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 flight crew; reporting for early morning departure; discover aircraft has been deiced without configuring the aircraft In Accordance With company SOP.
Narrative: When boarding the overnight aircraft 50 minutes before departure; it was obvious that it had been recently deiced. The Deice Supervisor was called to the gate to discuss. He said that it was determined that all overnight airplanes were to be deiced due to frost. He said our plane was deiced over 1 hour earlier but no one had configured the cockpit for deicing in violation of deicing procedures. He said that waiting for the crews to arrive and properly configure the aircraft would result in delayed departures. He said that the deice crew only used 'minimal fluid.' This appears to be an excuse for not complying with the established procedure. ANY deicing should not occur until the aircraft is configured by the crew or other trained personnel.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.