Air carrier on ILS approach took evasive action to avoid small aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	81744
Time
Date	198802
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 9300 msl bound upper : 9300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	arrival : profile descent enroute airway : lax
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 900
ASRS Report	81744
Person 2
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 200 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

On the 24R ILS approach to lax, approach control told us to stop our descent at whatever altitude we were at. He called VFR traffic at 10-11 O'clock, 8700' climbing. We saw the traffic coming right at us and immediately added climb power and made a climbing right hand turn. The other aircraft made a right hand turn also to avoid a collision, although the WX is called 'VFR' by FAA regulations it is difficult to see in the lax haze and smog and afternoon sun shining in your eyes. The controllers also appear to be overloaded during this time period as are the flight crews. Lax is a very dangerous airport and more protection needs to be provided or there is going to be another disaster. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. Reporter feels lax is dangerous because of constant chatter to cockpit and constant changes after established in approach. Gives feeling of much confusion from approach and tower. Nmacs happen too frequently.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR ON ILS APCH TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID SMA.

Narrative: ON THE 24R ILS APCH TO LAX, APCH CTL TOLD US TO STOP OUR DSCNT AT WHATEVER ALT WE WERE AT. HE CALLED VFR TFC AT 10-11 O'CLOCK, 8700' CLBING. WE SAW THE TFC COMING R AT US AND IMMEDIATELY ADDED CLB PWR AND MADE A CLBING R HAND TURN. THE OTHER ACFT MADE A R HAND TURN ALSO TO AVOID A COLLISION, ALTHOUGH THE WX IS CALLED 'VFR' BY FAA REGS IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THE LAX HAZE AND SMOG AND AFTERNOON SUN SHINING IN YOUR EYES. THE CTLRS ALSO APPEAR TO BE OVERLOADED DURING THIS TIME PERIOD AS ARE THE FLT CREWS. LAX IS A VERY DANGEROUS ARPT AND MORE PROTECTION NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED OR THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER DISASTER. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. RPTR FEELS LAX IS DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF CONSTANT CHATTER TO COCKPIT AND CONSTANT CHANGES AFTER ESTABLISHED IN APCH. GIVES FEELING OF MUCH CONFUSION FROM APCH AND TWR. NMACS HAPPEN TOO FREQUENTLY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.