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Attributes | |
ACN | 824083 |
Time | |
Date | 200902 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | DA20-A1 Katana |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole/Turbo Seminole |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 119 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Private |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 36 Flight Crew Total 210 Flight Crew Type 32 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Single Pilot Pilot Flying |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 5 Vertical 20 |
Narrative:
I was 10 NM south of ZZZ on a straight-in approach for runway 1 when I began to make radio calls. I made a radio call almost every mile. I didn't hear anyone in the pattern until I radioed a 3 mile final and another aircraft said that he was left downwind for runway 1. I made another radio call at 2 miles and told the traffic that I didn't have him in sight. He immediately replied stating that he had me in sight. I continued with my approach and when I was about 1 miles final a twin engine aircraft; which appeared to be a piper seminole; flew directly over my right wing and seemed to be on the same glide path as me. He was closer than I have ever wanted to be to another aircraft inflight. He then turned slightly right and then left again to align himself on the upwind leg. I landed and taxied back to runway 1. At the same time the twin engine aircraft continued the pattern. After he landed and was clear of the runway I took off. While I was departing the area; the twin pilot came on the radio and asked if I noticed that I was 'almost cut in half by a twin.' I told him that I did notice and the last radio call I received was with him stating that he had me in sight. He told me that I cut him off and that the FAA would yell at me for doing a straight-in approach. I told him sorry and that it was a miscommunication. I don't know exactly what was going on in the other aircraft but maybe he lost sight of me or he was exhibiting a macho attitude because he felt that I had wronged him. I know that I should have been more clear and direct on the radio and should have asked him if he was going to extend downwind for me. If he said no I could have very easily slowed my approach to allow him to land first. If nothing else; I certainly could have done a go-around. I think this all could have been avoided if both myself and the other pilot would have been more clear on what our intentions were.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DV-20 and PA-44 approaching a CTAF airport had a NMAC after the PA-44 reported the DV-20 in sight but continued an approach conflicting the DV-20 which did not have his aircraft in view.
Narrative: I was 10 NM south of ZZZ on a straight-in approach for Runway 1 when I began to make radio calls. I made a radio call almost every mile. I didn't hear anyone in the pattern until I radioed a 3 mile final and another aircraft said that he was left downwind for Runway 1. I made another radio call at 2 miles and told the traffic that I didn't have him in sight. He immediately replied stating that he had me in sight. I continued with my approach and when I was about 1 miles final a twin engine aircraft; which appeared to be a Piper Seminole; flew directly over my right wing and seemed to be on the same glide path as me. He was closer than I have ever wanted to be to another aircraft inflight. He then turned slightly right and then left again to align himself on the upwind leg. I landed and taxied back to Runway 1. At the same time the twin engine aircraft continued the pattern. After he landed and was clear of the runway I took off. While I was departing the area; the twin pilot came on the radio and asked if I noticed that I was 'almost cut in half by a twin.' I told him that I did notice and the last radio call I received was with him stating that he had me in sight. He told me that I cut him off and that the FAA would yell at me for doing a straight-in approach. I told him sorry and that it was a miscommunication. I don't know exactly what was going on in the other aircraft but maybe he lost sight of me or he was exhibiting a macho attitude because he felt that I had wronged him. I know that I should have been more clear and direct on the radio and should have asked him if he was going to extend downwind for me. If he said no I could have very easily slowed my approach to allow him to land first. If nothing else; I certainly could have done a go-around. I think this all could have been avoided if both myself and the other pilot would have been more clear on what our intentions were.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.