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Attributes | |
ACN | 824886 |
Time | |
Date | 200902 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 184 Flight Crew Type 400 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were given the visual approach to runway 25R on base about 25 DME las. At this time; the captain and I discussed the issue of staying above the class B floor on the approach and he had his approach plate out as well as the class B chart for las. I had only the ILS runway 25R approach plate out. As we proceeded on the visual; he would give me the DME and altitude I could descend to in order to stay in the class B. At one point I asked if the altitude and DME were correct for a descent to 4;500 ft and he said it was. I continued the descent because he was looking at the class B chart. Mine was not out; and my main concern was a stabilized approach. Approaching 4;500 ft; the captain realized that; in fact; we had descended early and were below the class B momentarily between 15-20 DME. We leveled; confessed our mistake to the tower; re-entered the class B; and continued a normal approach and landing on runway 25R. We were aware of the class B floor issue on the visual approach. However; in hindsight; as the pilot flying; I did not brief this issue on my approach brief and had poor situational awareness of where the floor was. I failed to back up the captain by not having my class B chart out which allowed an honest chart misread mistake to not be caught. I will become familiar with the class B airspace in las and will have the class B chart out or mark on the approach plate where the class B limits are. I will also brief the class B floor issue on approach briefings from now on.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 on visual approach to LAS fails to remain above Class B floor because of early descent.
Narrative: We were given the visual approach to Runway 25R on base about 25 DME LAS. At this time; the Captain and I discussed the issue of staying above the Class B floor on the approach and he had his approach plate out as well as the Class B chart for LAS. I had only the ILS Runway 25R approach plate out. As we proceeded on the visual; he would give me the DME and altitude I could descend to in order to stay in the Class B. At one point I asked if the altitude and DME were correct for a descent to 4;500 FT and he said it was. I continued the descent because he was looking at the Class B chart. Mine was not out; and my main concern was a stabilized approach. Approaching 4;500 FT; the Captain realized that; in fact; we had descended early and were below the Class B momentarily between 15-20 DME. We leveled; confessed our mistake to the Tower; re-entered the Class B; and continued a normal approach and landing on Runway 25R. We were aware of the Class B floor issue on the visual approach. However; in hindsight; as the pilot flying; I did not brief this issue on my approach brief and had poor situational awareness of where the floor was. I failed to back up the Captain by not having my Class B chart out which allowed an honest chart misread mistake to not be caught. I will become familiar with the Class B airspace in LAS and will have the Class B chart out or mark on the approach plate where the Class B limits are. I will also brief the Class B floor issue on approach briefings from now on.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.