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Flight crew arriving phx is using the GEELA3 STAR and ATC is using the GEELA2 version; which is outdated.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 834127 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200905 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PHX.Airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | STAR Geela |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We had current charts that were in effect and approach control was still using the out of date charts that I no longer had. Flight to phx. We were inbound on the geela arrival with a blythe transition. We were cleared to descend via the geela arrival outside of hydrr. We were already at 13;000 ft. I checked my arrival chart; saw nimby at 7;000 ft was the lowest altitude. I set 7;000 ft in the FCU altitude window and started a managed descent. Between loosy and nimby we were given a frequency change; first officer checked in with our call sign; flight number and that we were descending out of 8;000 for 7;000 ft. The controller acknowledged our check on. After passing nimby at 7;000; controller gave us a descent to 4;000 ft then advised us we were to cross nimby at 6;000 ft. Approach control was using the geela two; we were flying the geela three. Nothing else was said; controller vectored us on in for the visual to runway 25L. Outbound from phx; we noticed other inbound aircraft from the east were having the same problems with the eagul arrival. When a new chart goes into effect; everybody use it; or don't issue revisions that aren't going to be used until a later date.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Flight crew arriving PHX is using the GEELA3 STAR and ATC is using the GEELA2 version; which is outdated.
Narrative: We had current charts that were in effect and approach control was still using the out of date charts that I no longer had. Flight to PHX. We were inbound on the GEELA Arrival with a Blythe transition. We were cleared to descend via the GEELA Arrival outside of HYDRR. We were already at 13;000 FT. I checked my arrival chart; saw NIMBY at 7;000 FT was the lowest altitude. I set 7;000 FT in the FCU altitude window and started a managed descent. Between LOOSY and NIMBY we were given a frequency change; First Officer checked in with our call sign; flight number and that we were descending out of 8;000 for 7;000 FT. The Controller acknowledged our check on. After passing NIMBY at 7;000; Controller gave us a descent to 4;000 FT then advised us we were to cross NIMBY at 6;000 FT. Approach Control was using the GEELA Two; we were flying the GEELA Three. Nothing else was said; Controller vectored us on in for the visual to Runway 25L. Outbound from PHX; we noticed other inbound aircraft from the east were having the same problems with the EAGUL Arrival. When a new chart goes into effect; everybody use it; or don't issue revisions that aren't going to be used until a later date.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.