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Attributes | |
ACN | 843952 |
Time | |
Date | 200907 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Widebody Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 60 Flight Crew Total 16000 Flight Crew Type 1000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
This was my first trip after birthday number 60. The age 60 requirement is that below 10;000 ft at least one pilot must be younger than 60. I didn't think about this requirement - which now applies to me - until after the second takeoff of a four leg trip with a first officer who is himself over 60 (first and second leg rotations were based on normal considerations for takeoff/landing currency and break preferences. I was in the left seat for the first leg takeoff but due to captain augmentation; not in a pilot seat for the first leg landing. I was in the left seat; with the 'over-60' first officer for the second leg takeoff but the 'under-60' first officer was with me in the seat for the second leg landing). During the second leg our 'under-60' first officer who was not with us on the first leg - thought about our ages and realized that we had not correctly provisioned our crew rotation. The second leg's approach phase and all subsequent legs had a correct rotation with at least one pilot younger than 60 in a seat below 10;000 ft. I'm embarrassed that I didn't think about this matter as I certainly knew of the requirement but since it hadn't applied to me until recently I just didn't think of it. In discussing the situation with the 'over-60' first officer I had the feeling he hadn't previously run into this situation either. No excuse. I will now pay close attention to the age 60 information provided in the crew list!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Captain on first trip after age 60 does not take into account ages of First Officers when planning crew rotations on four leg international trip. Result; two pilots over age 60 at controls during landing at foreign destination.
Narrative: This was my first trip after birthday number 60. The age 60 requirement is that below 10;000 FT at least one pilot must be younger than 60. I didn't think about this requirement - which now applies to me - until after the second takeoff of a four leg trip with a First Officer who is himself over 60 (first and second leg rotations were based on normal considerations for takeoff/landing currency and break preferences. I was in the left seat for the first leg takeoff but due to Captain augmentation; not in a pilot seat for the first leg landing. I was in the left seat; with the 'over-60' First Officer for the second leg takeoff but the 'under-60' First Officer was with me in the seat for the second leg landing). During the second leg our 'under-60' First Officer who was not with us on the first leg - thought about our ages and realized that we had not correctly provisioned our crew rotation. The second leg's approach phase and all subsequent legs had a correct rotation with at least one pilot younger than 60 in a seat below 10;000 FT. I'm embarrassed that I didn't think about this matter as I certainly knew of the requirement but since it hadn't applied to me until recently I just didn't think of it. In discussing the situation with the 'over-60' First Officer I had the feeling he hadn't previously run into this situation either. No excuse. I will now pay close attention to the age 60 information provided in the crew list!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.