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Medium large transport joining the back course runway 34L had near midair collision with unk-spn, no advisory from approach control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 84481 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198803 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rno |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10500 msl bound upper : 10550 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rno artcc : zla |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 135 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 84481 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 84522 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 600 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were just joining the localizer back course, runway 34L, at rno, when suddenly at about 12:30, 120 yds and 50' above us, we saw a glider. The glider had a westerly heading. The glider passed off to our right with no change in heading or altitude. It happened so fast, no on had time to take evasive action. We just did not see the glider's small profile until it was too late. The WX was clear with visibility unlimited. We were not notified of any glider activity in the area. We were just handed over to approach control when the incident occurred. We advised approach control of the glider activity. When runway 34L is being used, I would think this area on the back course would be a poor place for glider activity. Coordination between approach control and the local glider pilots seems like a good recommendation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG JOINING THE BACK COURSE RWY 34L HAD NMAC WITH UNK-SPN, NO ADVISORY FROM APCH CTL.
Narrative: WE WERE JUST JOINING THE LOC BACK COURSE, RWY 34L, AT RNO, WHEN SUDDENLY AT ABOUT 12:30, 120 YDS AND 50' ABOVE US, WE SAW A GLIDER. THE GLIDER HAD A WESTERLY HDG. THE GLIDER PASSED OFF TO OUR RIGHT WITH NO CHANGE IN HDG OR ALT. IT HAPPENED SO FAST, NO ON HAD TIME TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION. WE JUST DID NOT SEE THE GLIDER'S SMALL PROFILE UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE. THE WX WAS CLR WITH VIS UNLIMITED. WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF ANY GLIDER ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. WE WERE JUST HANDED OVER TO APCH CTL WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. WE ADVISED APCH CTL OF THE GLIDER ACTIVITY. WHEN RWY 34L IS BEING USED, I WOULD THINK THIS AREA ON THE BACK COURSE WOULD BE A POOR PLACE FOR GLIDER ACTIVITY. COORD BTWN APCH CTL AND THE LCL GLIDER PLTS SEEMS LIKE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.