Air carrier with sct on visual approach to runway 25L at lax described conflict event when B747 on r...

Narrative:

We were on the riivr approach to lax 25L in beautiful; crystal clear weather. Had runway in sight 30 miles out. Socal cleared us for the visual about 20 miles from the airport and advised us that there was traffic on the north complex. As we got closer; somewhere inside fuelr; socal called out a 747 on right base for 24R. We easily saw the 747 at our 1 o'clock and about 2-3 miles ahead of us. However; he way overshot the north complex and even overshot the airport by about 2 miles. He rolled out facing the manhattan beach pier. ATC was concerned about separation; we told him we would slow to final approach speed and and he cleared us to s-turn to the left if needed. The 747 continued his turn back to the north complex thru the south complex traffic and was never a threat to us since we slowed. We continued and landed safely on 25L. Perhaps socal and norcal should not issue visual approaches to new or start-up foreign carriers who may employ less experienced pilots or pilots who do not have operating experience in lax and sfo.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: Air Carrier with SCT on visual approach to Runway 25L at LAX described conflict event when B747 on right base visual to Runway 24R overshot the 24L/R and 25L/R runway complexes before turning back to Runway 24R. Reporter questions ATC's visual approach assignment to foreign carriers.

Narrative: We were on the RIIVR approach to LAX 25L in beautiful; crystal clear weather. Had runway in sight 30 miles out. SoCal cleared us for the visual about 20 miles from the airport and advised us that there was traffic on the north complex. As we got closer; somewhere inside FUELR; SoCal called out a 747 on right base for 24R. We easily saw the 747 at our 1 o'clock and about 2-3 miles ahead of us. However; he way overshot the north complex and even overshot the airport by about 2 miles. He rolled out facing the Manhattan Beach pier. ATC was concerned about separation; we told him we would slow to final approach speed and and he cleared us to s-turn to the left if needed. The 747 continued his turn back to the north complex thru the south complex traffic and was never a threat to us since we slowed. We continued and landed safely on 25L. Perhaps SoCal and Norcal should not issue visual approaches to new or start-up foreign carriers who may employ less experienced pilots or pilots who do not have operating experience in LAX and SFO.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Attributes
ACN	845166
Time
Date	200907
Local Time Of Day	0001-0600
Place
Locale Reference	LAX.Airport
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	B757-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Initial Approach
Route In Use	STAR RIIVR
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Captain Pilot Flying
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 210 Flight Crew Total 13500 Flight Crew Type 3200
Events
Anomaly	Conflict Airborne Conflict

Air carrier with sct on visual approach to runway 25L at lax described conflict event when B747 on right base visual to runway 24R overshot the 24L/right and 25L/right runway complexes before turning back to runway 24R. Reporter questions ATC's visual approach assignment to foreign carriers.