Air carrier departure from isp during non towered operations was questioned by N90 regarding flight ...

Attributes
ACN	845600
Time
Date	200907
Local Time Of Day	0001-0600
Place
Locale Reference	ISP.Airport
State Reference	NY
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	B737-700
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Pilot Flying Captain
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 188 Flight Crew Type 6000
Person 2
Function	Pilot Not Flying First Officer
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 175
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance

Narrative:

The tower was closed in isp at departure time after much weather and ATC delays earlier in the day. The first officer obtained an IFR clearance from approach control via radio and was not given a void time or hold for release. We taxied out on the CTAF and I asked the first officer if we had a void time and he said we were not given one. We departed isp VFR and then switched over to approach. Upon check-in the controller seemed to think we had been given a hold for release time from isp; but the first officer didn't remember receiving one when the clearance was obtained and had no indication of one on his written copy for readback. The flight departed VFR. There were no traffic conflicts or issues and the flight continued. I feel lengthy delays and ATC holds; operations with no tower operating; and backside of the clock are contributing factors.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: Air carrier departure from ISP during non towered operations was questioned by N90 regarding flight plan status and lack of ATC release; reporter alleged no release restrictions were received and initial departure was VFR.

Narrative: The Tower was closed in ISP at departure time after much weather and ATC delays earlier in the day. The First Officer obtained an IFR clearance from Approach Control via radio and was not given a void time or hold for release. We taxied out on the CTAF and I asked the First Officer if we had a void time and he said we were not given one. We departed ISP VFR and then switched over to Approach. Upon check-in the Controller seemed to think we had been given a hold for release time from ISP; but the First Officer didn't remember receiving one when the clearance was obtained and had no indication of one on his written copy for readback. The flight departed VFR. There were no traffic conflicts or issues and the flight continued. I feel lengthy delays and ATC holds; operations with no Tower operating; and backside of the clock are contributing factors.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier departure from isp during non towered operations was questioned by N90 regarding flight plan status and lack of ATC release; reporter alleged no release restrictions were received and initial departure was VFR.