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Attributes | |
ACN | 847740 |
Time | |
Date | 200908 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SLC.Airport |
State Reference | UT |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 172 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 254 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
We were on a 10-mile final to slc. We were high due to approach keeping us high on the arrival for departing aircraft. I was in the process of extending the flaps and landing gear. We were approaching a 5-mile final and we were still high. The captain asked me to slow so that we could go to a flaps 40 landing. He then asked me to begin an s-turn. He tried to call to receive clearance for the s-turn; but his transmission was stepped on and approach did not reply. So I did not feel I should perform an s-turn without consent. He then stated that he was taking control of the aircraft and began an immediate; s-turn without approval from approach. I took over the radios and was instructed to switch to tower. Tower then cleared us to land. Preventative measures would be better descent planning; knowing that slc keeps you high during approaches; and better communication with ATC. We should not have executed an s-turn without getting clearance from ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier inbound to SLC initiated s-turns on final without prior coordination with ATC; claiming ATC kept them high on the arrival.
Narrative: We were on a 10-mile final to SLC. We were high due to Approach keeping us high on the arrival for departing aircraft. I was in the process of extending the flaps and landing gear. We were approaching a 5-mile final and we were still high. The Captain asked me to slow so that we could go to a Flaps 40 landing. He then asked me to begin an S-turn. He tried to call to receive clearance for the S-turn; but his transmission was stepped on and Approach did not reply. So I did not feel I should perform an S-turn without consent. He then stated that he was taking control of the aircraft and began an immediate; S-turn without approval from Approach. I took over the radios and was instructed to switch to Tower. Tower then cleared us to land. Preventative measures would be better descent planning; knowing that SLC keeps you high during approaches; and better communication with ATC. We should not have executed an S-turn without getting clearance from ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.