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Attributes | |
ACN | 84788 |
Time | |
Date | 198803 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ind |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : j89 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 29 controller supervisory : 7 |
ASRS Report | 84788 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 1200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Trainee working the sector with air carrier X climbing, and air carrier Y descending. The trainee needed to lock air carrier X present heading at point a. When this didn't happen, I still thought we would have vertical separation, but we did not. Seven years ago, with the older radar equipment, ie broadband radar, these two aircraft would have had standard separation. (3 miles separation within 40 miles of radar antenna.) this was a controled situation at all times.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN TWO ACR. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: TRAINEE WORKING THE SECTOR WITH ACR X CLIMBING, AND ACR Y DESCENDING. THE TRAINEE NEEDED TO LOCK ACR X PRESENT HEADING AT POINT A. WHEN THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN, I STILL THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE VERTICAL SEPARATION, BUT WE DID NOT. SEVEN YEARS AGO, WITH THE OLDER RADAR EQUIPMENT, IE BROADBAND RADAR, THESE TWO ACFT WOULD HAVE HAD STANDARD SEPARATION. (3 MILES SEPARATION WITHIN 40 MILES OF RADAR ANTENNA.) THIS WAS A CTLED SITUATION AT ALL TIMES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.