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Attributes | |
ACN | 851317 |
Time | |
Date | 200909 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TEB.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Citation X (C750) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | SID RUUDY |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 60 Flight Crew Total 11000 Flight Crew Type 250 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
We were assigned the new departure out of teterboro. Having never seen this departure before; I was extra vigilant as to the procedure. Having read the departure text; I noticed the different climb rates for initial climb up to 1500 ft and then a second climb gradient for the remainder of the climb to 2000 ft; however there was no reference to an intermittent climb limit in the text; as there is for the TEB6 departure. Looking at the pictorial; it was not immediately evident that there was a level off at 1500 ft; because the limit is depicted below the intersection; which makes it less evident than it would if it were depicted above the intersection. We departed the area; and our initial climb was passing through 1650 ft MSL when the altitude alert tone on the FMS alerted us we were exceeding a hard altitude; so we immediately descended to 1500 ft until the appropriate intersection; then resumed our climb to 2000 ft; I know that teb has abundant altitude deviation problems on their arrivals as well as departures. Due to the nature of this location; the need for extreme vigilance for other traffic and ground obstacles;(antennas); makes this area a high workload area for the crew. I think that departure clearances should be to climb to 1500 ft; and issue climb clearance to 2000 ft when the aircraft tags up with departure. I hear 'read back' mistakes all the time as it is very confusing to seasoned crews; much less to less experienced pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A corporate pilot departed on the TEB RUUDY TWO RNAV DEPARTURE and failed to level at 1;500 FT. The chart format depicting the restriction 'AT 1500' was confusing.
Narrative: We were assigned the new departure out of Teterboro. Having never seen this departure before; I was extra vigilant as to the procedure. Having read the departure text; I noticed the different climb rates for initial climb up to 1500 FT and then a second climb gradient for the remainder of the climb to 2000 FT; However there was no reference to an intermittent climb limit in the text; as there is for the TEB6 departure. Looking at the pictorial; it was not immediately evident that there was a level off at 1500 FT; because the limit is depicted below the intersection; which makes it less evident than it would if it were depicted above the intersection. We departed the area; and our initial climb was passing through 1650 FT MSL when the altitude alert tone on the FMS alerted us we were exceeding a hard altitude; so we immediately descended to 1500 FT until the appropriate intersection; then resumed our climb to 2000 FT; I know that TEB has abundant altitude deviation problems on their arrivals as well as departures. Due to the nature of this location; the need for extreme vigilance for other traffic and ground obstacles;(antennas); makes this area a high workload area for the crew. I think that departure clearances should be to climb to 1500 FT; and issue climb clearance to 2000 FT when the aircraft tags up with departure. I hear 'read back' mistakes all the time as it is very confusing to seasoned crews; much less to less experienced pilots.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.