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Attributes | |
ACN | 853734 |
Time | |
Date | 200909 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ONT.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent Initial Approach |
Route In Use | STAR ZIGGY 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 1250 Vertical 500 |
Narrative:
While on the ziggy 4 arrival to ont; we were told by socal approach that there had been reports of hang gliders and a powered parasail (by a previous air carrier) 'in the pass' (somewhere between hitop and petis). We had initially been cleared to 8;000 ft; and 'direct petis' -- normally we would have expedited down to that altitude. However; given the information; we decided to stop our descent at 9;000 ft and continue on our present southeasterly heading to avoid the hang gliding activity. After passing approximately 10;000 ft I observed several hang gliders 2;000-2;500 ft below us. Moments later I saw one through my aft window; that was probably 500-800 ft below and approx 1/4 mile laterally from our present position. While this incident didn't result in a collision -- we had been cleared to 8;000 ft and had been cleared; 'direct petis'. Had we continued down; and turned; the hang glider likely would have been much; much closer. The controller was doing his best to provide separation from the hang gliders as could be expected from a group of aircraft with which he was neither talking to; nor had on radar. After this event was over; we continued on to ont and landed normally. The event occurred due to hang gliding/parasailing activity on a published STAR. I would suggest creating procedures to keep commercial aircraft away from this area when hang gliding activity is occurring. I would also suggest informing said hang gliders of the extreme danger that they are subjecting themselves to by operating without conferring with socal approach. I would expect that proper communication could ensure safety for all involved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An air carrier pilot reports a close encounter with a hang glider near PETIS Intersection on the ZIGGY FOUR STAR at 9;000 FT descending to ONT.
Narrative: While on the ZIGGY 4 arrival to ONT; we were told by SoCal approach that there had been reports of hang gliders and a powered parasail (by a previous Air Carrier) 'in the pass' (somewhere between HITOP and PETIS). We had initially been cleared to 8;000 FT; and 'direct PETIS' -- normally we would have expedited down to that altitude. However; given the information; we decided to stop our descent at 9;000 FT and continue on our present southeasterly heading to avoid the hang gliding activity. After passing approximately 10;000 FT I observed several hang gliders 2;000-2;500 FT below us. Moments later I saw one through my aft window; that was probably 500-800 FT below and approx 1/4 mile laterally from our present position. While this incident didn't result in a collision -- we had been cleared to 8;000 FT and had been cleared; 'Direct PETIS'. Had we continued down; and turned; the hang glider likely would have been much; much closer. The Controller was doing his best to provide separation from the hang gliders as could be expected from a group of aircraft with which he was neither talking to; nor had on radar. After this event was over; we continued on to ONT and landed normally. The event occurred due to hang gliding/parasailing activity on a published STAR. I would suggest creating procedures to keep commercial aircraft away from this area when hang gliding activity is occurring. I would also suggest informing said hang gliders of the extreme danger that they are subjecting themselves to by operating without conferring with SoCal Approach. I would expect that proper communication could ensure safety for all involved.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.