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Attributes | |
ACN | 859588 |
Time | |
Date | 200911 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | CMA.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 47 Flight Crew Total 3300 Flight Crew Type 1450 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Airspace Violation All Types |
Narrative:
On an instrument flight to camarillo ca (cma); close to midnight with destination tower closed; I had AWOS weather indicating marginal VFR at destination with scattered ceiling at 700. I was approaching the airport from the south on V27 to vtu. ATC was ZLA and they recommended a visual approach. I stated a preference for the RNAV-Y approach that would allow for a descent below the possible deteriorating conditions. ATC asked what approach fix I would like to start with and I gave a nearby IAF listed for the RNAV-Y approach. ATC replied that I could not do that as it interfered with approaches to lax and said I should use another starting fix. I replied that I could use any of the additional fixes down to the FAF but the answer I got was that they would not work either as they also interfered with approaches to lax. At this point I felt that I was getting a serious run-around by ATC as there was no other approach that I could use into cma. I had the cma beacon in sight from 4000 feet and 15 miles south of the field so I said I was cancelling IFR. I did cancel IFR and changed to the cma advisory frequency while I proceeded with the visual descent. About 5 miles out it became obvious there was mixed weather at cma. West of the field as broken at about 700; over the airport was scattered at 700; and east of the field was clear. In a visual approach to runway 26; I lost sight of the runway more than once but had a solid visual on the runway from 600 feet down. I landed without event. I feel this was marginal VFR at best and more likely IMC. I also felt this was a condition forced on me by ATC who basically seemed to not want to give me the RNAV-Y approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IFR corporate aircraft inbound to CMA was denied request for RNAV approach from ZLA; reportedly because the procedure routing interfered with LAX traffic.
Narrative: On an instrument flight to Camarillo CA (CMA); close to midnight with destination tower closed; I had AWOS weather indicating marginal VFR at destination with scattered ceiling at 700. I was approaching the airport from the south on V27 to VTU. ATC was ZLA and they recommended a visual approach. I stated a preference for the RNAV-Y approach that would allow for a descent below the possible deteriorating conditions. ATC asked what approach fix I would like to start with and I gave a nearby IAF listed for the RNAV-Y approach. ATC replied that I could not do that as it interfered with approaches to LAX and said I should use another starting fix. I replied that I could use any of the additional fixes down to the FAF but the answer I got was that they would not work either as they also interfered with approaches to LAX. At this point I felt that I was getting a serious run-around by ATC as there was no other approach that I could use into CMA. I had the CMA beacon in sight from 4000 feet and 15 miles south of the field so I said I was cancelling IFR. I did cancel IFR and changed to the CMA advisory frequency while I proceeded with the visual descent. About 5 miles out it became obvious there was mixed weather at CMA. West of the field as broken at about 700; over the airport was scattered at 700; and east of the field was clear. In a visual approach to runway 26; I lost sight of the runway more than once but had a solid visual on the runway from 600 feet down. I landed without event. I feel this was marginal VFR at best and more likely IMC. I also felt this was a condition forced on me by ATC who basically seemed to not want to give me the RNAV-Y approach.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.