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B777 flight crew was informed after taxi to return to the gate to remove containers destined for a different city. Crew discovers that the containers were not included in the weight and balance and that they had taxied over max allowable taxi weight. A maintenance inspection is performed prior to the subsequent departure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 863053 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200912 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B777-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 70 Flight Crew Total 18000 Flight Crew Type 7000 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance |
Narrative:
Push back; engine start and initial taxi all normal. We received the final weight message enroute to runway for take-off. We then received a message via ACARS from load planning to not taxi pending a positive bag match. We sent a reply that we had already received our final weights. They again replied not to taxi. We then received an ACARS message from our dispatcher to call. Dispatch informed us that we had two containers for hkg and had to return to the gate; which we did. After unloading the hkg canisters and topping off the fuel we received our release 3 flight plan. It was for the exact same weight as release 2 which was for a takeoff weight 1500lbs below max T.O. Weight; so we queried load planning and dispatch for the weight of the removed canisters to see if we had previously taxied over our max allowable taxi weight. We had; so an over weight inspection was done and we continued the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 Flight Crew was informed after taxi to return to the gate to remove containers destined for a different city. Crew discovers that the containers were not included in the weight and balance and that they had taxied over max allowable taxi weight. A maintenance inspection is performed prior to the subsequent departure.
Narrative: Push back; engine start and initial taxi all normal. We received the final weight message enroute to runway for take-off. We then received a message via ACARS from Load Planning to not taxi pending a positive bag match. We sent a reply that we had already received our final weights. They again replied not to taxi. We then received an ACARS message from our Dispatcher to call. Dispatch informed us that we had two containers for HKG and had to return to the gate; which we did. After unloading the HKG canisters and topping off the fuel we received our release 3 flight plan. It was for the exact same weight as release 2 which was for a takeoff weight 1500lbs below max T.O. weight; so we queried Load Planning and Dispatch for the weight of the removed canisters to see if we had previously taxied over our max allowable taxi weight. We had; so an over weight inspection was done and we continued the flight.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.