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Attributes | |
ACN | 864617 |
Time | |
Date | 200912 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZOA.ARTCC |
State Reference | CA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was descending to the bottom of my airspace and assigned 280 knots. Aircraft X was under nct approach's control. Aircraft Y was about 7 miles behind aircraft X; descending to FL240 and reducing speed to 260 knots; but still faster by about 30 knots over the ground than aircraft X. Nct called for control of aircraft X when aircraft Y was at about FL270. I shipped aircraft Y to nct with still about 7 miles lateral; 1500 feet vertical and 20 knots faster over the ground and slowing. It appeared to me that aircraft X was slowed by nct as his ground speed fell by about 40 knots; and at the same time slowed his descent and eventually leveled at FL240. Aircraft Y continued his descent while on nct's frequency to aircraft X's altitude and continued to have an overtake as aircraft X had by now slowed considerably over the ground; even as aircraft Y was also slowing. Nct eventually turned aircraft Y with about 5 miles lateral separation. Approach control separation was never lost; and they were talking to both aircraft; but it was close for a center controller. My expectation was that nct was either going to keep aircraft X descending and going fast; or turn aircraft Y earlier. As it was; it was a non-issue; but coordination could have been clearer between us. I could have asked nct if they wanted anything else done before I shipped the following aircraft; or they could have let me know what they had planned.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC Controller hands off two aircraft to terminal facility; with compression leading to minimum separation and corrective turn by the terminal facility.
Narrative: Aircraft X was descending to the bottom of my airspace and assigned 280 knots. Aircraft X was under NCT Approach's control. Aircraft Y was about 7 miles behind Aircraft X; descending to FL240 and reducing speed to 260 knots; but still faster by about 30 knots over the ground than Aircraft X. NCT called for control of Aircraft X when Aircraft Y was at about FL270. I shipped Aircraft Y to NCT with still about 7 miles lateral; 1500 feet vertical and 20 knots faster over the ground and slowing. It appeared to me that Aircraft X was slowed by NCT as his ground speed fell by about 40 knots; and at the same time slowed his descent and eventually leveled at FL240. Aircraft Y continued his descent while on NCT's frequency to Aircraft X's altitude and continued to have an overtake as Aircraft X had by now slowed considerably over the ground; even as Aircraft Y was also slowing. NCT eventually turned Aircraft Y with about 5 miles lateral separation. Approach control separation was never lost; and they were talking to both aircraft; but it was close for a Center Controller. My expectation was that NCT was either going to keep Aircraft X descending and going fast; or turn Aircraft Y earlier. As it was; it was a non-issue; but coordination could have been clearer between us. I could have asked NCT if they wanted anything else done before I shipped the following aircraft; or they could have let me know what they had planned.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.